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  • in reply to: She wants to reconcile, but now I'm afraid. #8202
    SuzyL
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    Well, I don’t feel like she is 100% invested. She refuses to let the rebound know that she is working on things with me and can’t communicate with her. We fought about it today, and the fact we are back to fighting and not even in a relationship.. I’ve decided to step back and take more time away from the situation. I’m letting my ex go. It’s for the best. I was up n down about it for a while because of the behavior surrounding the rebound. But yeah.. It’s not going to work. Especially for me..

    I mean.. there’s a reason why she just can’t remove this rebound out of the picture so we can try to move on. I was 100% invested on reconciling, but if she cares so much about this other person being around (whether in the background or not) then how much am I supposed to believe that she cares about how I feel? Three days ago, she said she didn’t like “T” like that.. but today said that what she meant was that she wasn’t in love with “T” but does have feelings for her and is sexually attracted to her.. but she followed up with, “But out of sight, out of mind. If I’m with you, I’ll only have eyes for you.” But if she isn’t telling this woman to stay away, then that’s not out of sight out of mind. She even spoke and texted “T” last night. “T” hit her up through text, my ex was honest and said she wouldn’t speak to T or reply, but as soon as we argued over why I am hurt that she won’t tell the rebound she can’t communicate with her.. she didn’t hesitate to speak to T. I’m tired of the bullshit. Like, I feel mentally exhausted over all of this. It hasn’t set me back too much, but it hurts pretty damn bad that she is still up n down about the rebound after feeding me so much crap.

    We have been broken up since the end of June. She had a physical relationship with the rebound for a month. Then they slowed down because my ex felt like it was turning into another relationship and she didn’t want to jump from one to another. She told the rebound several times she couldn’t speak to her because of working on things with me, but then would speak to her rebound and walk right back out the door. My ex told me yesterday that they agreed to distance themselves from that type of relationship while my ex is getting her life together, but then my ex said her and I started connecting and she wants to see where it can go. Maybe I am in the wrong, but I feel like I’d be stupid to let her work on things with me, and yet not give a shit about how I feel about her receiving texts and calls from the rebound. And her having feelings for another girl.

    I just feel that if she was serious about rekindling our relationship, then she would be willing to tell this person that there can’t be any communication. With this lingering, how can we (especially me) feel comfortable giving it our all?

    in reply to: Starting second round of NC #7874
    SuzyL
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    To be honest. Try not writing anything at all. Your emotions aren’t in the right state. She will wonder if you stop communicating all together. Good luck

    in reply to: Starting second round of NC #7873
    SuzyL
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    I wouldn’t write it quite like that.

    Make is shorter and sweeter. Be more understanding of where she might be emotionally and mentally. And don’t say “From now on I am going to focus my energy on someone who actually wants my friendship, and can appreciate what I have to offer them.” That says a few things. 1. You’re throwing a fit because you aren’t getting the attention you want. 2. It is confrontational and counter productive. 3. You’re telling her that “friend” to you means something more..

    in reply to: I gave up #6557
    SuzyL
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    Read it. 🙂 I responded. Hang in there!

    in reply to: I gave up #6521
    SuzyL
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    I’m not sure how long she’s been with her rebound** not NC. lol

    in reply to: I gave up #6519
    SuzyL
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    It’s a pretty complicated story. lol We were fighting for months. She claimed I broke up with her at the end of April. I said I broke up, but we never straight up said “lets get back together” in any past breaks. We just kissed, cuddled, had sex..planned for the future. And all was forgotten. Well, she has really bizarre behavior for a month and we fought, made up and began speaking of a future. She even tried having sex with me, etc. One weekend, she went to a party and slept with another woman. (Her current rebound) And a few days later told me about it, and said she wasn’t in love with me anymore and wanted to pursue this rebound. She told ppl we had been broken up for 2 months, and that’s a flat out lie. She claims she didn’t cheat and didn’t leave me for this other woman. Both, I believe to be lies. I begged her to come back home and fix our 12yr relationship. I truly believed she was my soul mate. She refused. She wanted to pursue this other woman. That was back at the end of June. So going on 3 months ago.

    Right after she told me she wasn’t in love, I didn’t do anything. I was frozen. She said she wasn’t in love and she said she didn’t think I was either. The only thing I said was, “I’ve been in love with you since the day I was born.” She began to cry, but quickly stopped. I then asked her what are we going to do about the living arrangements.

    After about another month, she came over. I played like I was happy. I bought new clothes. I lost weight (from 127lbs to 110lbs) and I spoke confidently about my future goals and my life. She kept telling me how beautiful I was, etc. We had sex, and she told me she has hope for us but she wants to date down the road and try to reconnect. She didn’t want to jump right back in because a lot of shitty things happened. I agreed. The next day, she obviously spoke to her rebound and came to my house, screamed at me that she didn’t want it..and was super fucking cruel. I just sat and cried. Then, as she was leaving, I was having a meltdown. Two days later, she called me and said again she has hope for us, but she is confused. She said she doesn’t know what she wants, she just doesn’t want to wake up in the same place, with the same life.

    We spoke on and off for a couple of weeks. We kind of dated, and we went on about 5 dates. She then approached me about working on a future. I told her I am hesitant, but we needed to go to therapy..and I didn’t want her talking to her rebound while we were trying to connect. I didn’t think it was right. She had a look on her face as to say, “I really don’t want this now.” The next day, she spoke to her rebound and told her that she couldn’t speak to her. Then I called my ex, and she said that she wasnt sure she wanted to be in a relationship with me. I asked her if it was because she spoke to her rebound. She said that her rebound was deflated and sad, and that it made her feel a certain love for her..and if she is feeling that way then it isn’t fair that she try to connect with me. She came and got her things out of my house, and she left with barely any hesitation.

    That’s when I went to this site and began NC. I went 9 days of NC, and during NC I realized a lot about myself. I even learned a lot about my ex. And about 9 days in, I realized that I don’t need my ex. Pretty much whatever happens happens. That’s when I created this thread, “I gave up”. Since the initial post of this thread, my ex hit me up constantly. I finally answered through facebook. I explained that I am progressing and finding my own identity and seeing and speaking to her at this point would set me back. I didn’t care about what I told her, because I felt that my goal wasn’t to get her back anymore. It was to be happy no matter what. A day or so after that, she called me..and I posted the whole thing in another thread “My ex wont stop talking to rebound so we can connect” I think that was the title. lol

    Sorry for the long story, but I didn’t want to flip through pages to find the link to my story. But yeah.. we only went 9 days total of not speaking to each other. And after she pretty much said bye to me a 3rd time because she wants to be able to hang with her rebound and speak to her while essentially dating me. She makes sure she mentions we don’t have titles because if her rebound wants to have sex or date or whatever..she is free to do so. I decided after that..I was doing NC for 6 months. After the conversation about the rebound and her refusing to say bye to the rebound, she messages me and called me a handful of times and played like I never said anything about taking a full on break from communication. She just kept saying she misses me, she loves me, she wishes I was next to her.. It’s like she doesn’t take me seriously. So NC it is.

    I’m not sure how long she’s been with her NC. I know I was first told they had sex middle to end of July. She then kept it going pretty steadily with the rebound for about a good month and a week, and overtime they slowed down. Now, according to my ex, they don’t speak very often and they don’t really hang out anymore. Which confuses me because why will she not stop speaking to the rebound all together so we can connect and work on things. I mean, I know I’ve said at this point, my ex has a lot of growing up to do..but this whole thing, this past week, has really proven she isn’t the right one for me at all given her current state of mind.

    I’m not sure if she’s waiting on her rebound. Or what..and I can’t get her to really open up to me about it. The only thing she will tell me is why her and the rebound slowed down..and it kind of seems like she pissed the rebound off with her up and down feelings about getting back together with me. Not only that, but my ex also told the rebound that she wasn’t trying to jump from one relationship to another. Add in baggage on both sides, and it’s no wonder things slowed down..but yeah.
    I’m still positive about everything. I’ll be happy no matter what.

    in reply to: I gave up #6480
    SuzyL
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    Well, I thought about a false friends type of deal where I could build a connection. She thinks I’m sexy and attractive..and the last couple of days she has cried to me about how mean she’s been and how sad she is things turned out the way they have. But, as I stated in another thread, she would rather say bye to me than to her rebound (and according to her they don’t speak or see each other much). I feel like she really loves this other woman, and just won’t tell me. But this other woman has backed off from my ex..and my ex wants me around to fill the void until the other woman is ready.

    So. I told my ex that I am moving on and I want no further contact with her. Good riddance. No one should have to be subjected to that..especially by someone who says they love you and cherish you more than anyone else. Makes a lot of sense. lol People..

    in reply to: DREAMS ABOUT MY EX(READ) #6427
    SuzyL
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    Don’t say anything to him. You’ll come off way wrong, and people usually don’t believe things until it happens.

    I repeat.. Don’t break NC

    in reply to: I gave up #6269
    SuzyL
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    What do you think about this:

    If she felt a connection to the point she wanted to make love (after finding that our “happy list” was exactly the same) that there could be a chance for a solid connection in the future? I’m curious. It’s obvious that when she sees the positive changes in me that she feels like there’s a chance… but often she doesn’t think about being in a relationship with me. She just misses me like crazy.

    in reply to: I gave up #6267
    SuzyL
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    So, because of how solid I was feeling about my ex and the breakup, I decided to answer a phone call from my ex. The conversation was good, constructive, positive and full of honesty. I played it cool and was confident sounding. Warm but not needy or emotional. She told me that I am what she wants in a partner. And that she wishes I was this new person in the relationship. I explained to her that it’s no ones fault, but in a cycle that we couldn’t break..neither one of us could be who we really are. We lost ourselves. I lost my identity, and I am taking serious steps to get it back so that I can be open to love and a great relationship whether with her or someone else.

    She began to cry and says she doesn’t know why the connections fizzles out, but that I am everything she wants in a partner. I asked her if she thought guilt, anxiety or fear has anything to do with it. She said she honestly doesn’t know. I told her that we just need to progress as individuals. Neither one of us knows what will happen, but that I need to continue my progress..and I wanted to limit communication. She started crying again and said she will probably cry herself to sleep because she wants me by her to “snuggle”. We ended up passing out on the phone together.

    I did not attempt to make contact the next day. I wasn’t expecting her to either. I just went about my day, and eventually she called and texted me. I waited a while before responding and told her that I was busy at rugby. After rugby, I called her and she answered and then hung up. It sent an old familiar feeling of sadness and anger. About an hour later, she left a voice mail saying she was at dinner with a friend and her friend was telling her about a crisis. She didn’t mean to answer at all, but just to hit ignore. I believed her, but the feeling I had when she answered and hung up let me know that I am not ready to have the “false friendship” type thing.
    We talked about random things for about an hour, and then she said something about “When I have my kids..blah blah blah”..and I stopped listening. Again, sadness took over. If she has babies, I want her to have them with me! So, today..I am going on another NC journey. Not to win the girl back, but to progress even more. I want to be able to not feel sadness when she does or says certain things. I guess what probably changed my feelings a bit about my outlook is that she actually told me she is very sorry and that she has cried about what she’s done..and she even expressed how ashamed she was of her immature and cruel behavior.

    So.. I am not set back too much..but I feel like NC is best for now.

    Just wanted to let that out.

    in reply to: NC harder on me than on her? #6262
    SuzyL
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    As someone that broke NC after deciding that in my situation and how I am feeling about my progress and feeling okay if I never get her back..

    I am pretty sure NC is rough for your ex. When I spoke to my ex for the first time on the phone in a while, she cried a bit and admitted she keeps herself busy so she doesn’t have to sit and think about me or the breakup. She also told me she misses me like crazy and loves me so much.

    She broke up with me and in a really fucked up way. I’m not in a unique situation.

    in reply to: Quarter Life Crisis #6260
    SuzyL
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    Hey Mike,

    Sorry it took me so long to get this reply to you. I had written a novel, and then it was deleted. 🙁 So here goes again,

    Yeah, when my ex first refused to come back to the relationship, I fought her on it and one of the first things that I’d say is, “you don’t walk away from 12yr!” I also felt like the love could be rekindled in the current state we were in. NC has allowed me to understand it’s not that simple. Twelve years is a long time to just throw away, but if it gets unhealthy..then it is important to walk away. Also, in a bad situation..no one can really concentrate on rekindling the love because, at least for me, I’d only concentrate on how she hurt me. Nothing would get accomplished.

    I feel the same as you in terms of not imagining finding someone we can connect with in the same way. My ex has so many great qualities, and I can only imagine having babies and marriage with her. She feels the same about me. We had a conversation the other night, and she told me that everyone else is a “dumb dumb” compared to me. She said I’m all she ever wanted in a partner, but she feels like something is missing. I asked her to make a list of things that make her happy, and that I would do the same. We then compared the list and they were exactly the same. A bit later, she told me to let her come over and make love to me. During the phone conversation, she told me she felt the same as she used to.. I played it cool, and I told her space and time is what will allow us to heal and forgive. That trying to connect now wouldn’t work.

    If we reunite, it will be at least a year down the road. It will be when I can think about everything without feeling so much pain, and when I think she’s matured and really evaluated her actions and feelings. I’ll then plant the seed, if I am still in love with her, and we’ll go from there. I will NOT get my hopes up, though. I believe I can fix the disconnect, but at times..I don’t even think I want to…

    You may have to be the one to try and reunite, but that’s not a bad thing. And I don’t think she will have it in her head that you forgot about her or are moving on. There is no way she isn’t missing you, and yeah..the magazines will probably keep you in her mind. lol

    Closure may never come, and it’s unfortunate if it doesn’t. Just take steps to be prepared for that, and be okay with it if you never get it.

    Have a good one!
    Suzy

    in reply to: No contact and relationship rewind #6190
    SuzyL
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    Yeah, in my case..NC has been imperative. I wasn’t the screw up, but NC has allowed me to see where I went wrong and even grow into a more mature person. My breakup was absolutely horrible, and NC was the best option.

    in reply to: No Contact Annoymous – Share your struggles with keeping NC #6108
    SuzyL
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    I hope the best for you. Chin up! And yes, time will tell.

    in reply to: No Contact Annoymous – Share your struggles with keeping NC #6106
    SuzyL
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    It’s always important to define was cheating is with your partner. If you feel that it was cheating, then it was. If he wasn’t understanding of your definition, then maybe it was okay to forgive for that. As long as he knew it wasn’t acceptable. If then, it’s bogus he would write something like that.

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