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  • in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114308
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    There are a lot of other problems with CF, such as infertility (needing IVF which costs 5,000 over here per procedure) and increased breathing issues, infections, treatments which will only increase, physiotherapy, problems with digestion leading to lactose-intolerance-like symptoms, etc

    I guess if her heart is in for all that, good for her, but I know it is something that will cause her a lot of stress and heartache for the rest of her life which I think she does understand, but doesn’t want to think about or acknowledge right now. It’s not even been a week since we had that conversation anyway so she may feel different in a month about things if it gets too heavy for her

    I know myself, and I dont think I would be able to stay strong with that if I’m completely honest

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114306
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Yes that’s the average life expectancy, I think there’s a new drug coming out that’s going to make things better too which is good.

    But the thing with this condition is that, no matter what, it’s an illness which gets progressively worse as time goes on. And one random infection causing pneumonia could be debilitating and life-ending. She said he had pneumonia last summer and nearly died from it, he was in a bad way. It IS a life full up extreme ups and downs and I’m not sure if she will be able to handle it in the long run. Maybe it will make her stronger but I’m not sure she is strong enough right now to be able to handle that, you know?

    As well, I don’t think he worries too much about his condition, which he really should, she said his mother has to force him to go to appointments and checkups when he feels something coming on etc

    He had been in hospital the last day or two, being tested for coronavirus (as procedure) and he doesn’t have it but she was saying she was having severe anxiety all day

    I asked her how she felt about everything since last time we talked, when she was contemplating ending it with him and she said that she feels more at peace with it now, and that she’s trusting the universe etc…

    Time will tell I guess

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114259
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    It is cystic fibrosis I think. Which is pretty rare in our country. It seems as that night she was contemplating a way out but last night she said she is “trusting in god And the universe”

    ….

    She also said she is giving herself time before making a decision, but every time she has said that she has stayed with him, so I think she is going to stay

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114251
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Okay so her new man has a chronic illness which really makes her so scared and anxious every day and all the time so we had a whole 2 hour convo last night and she’s really considering breaking up with him

    Basically she realises she’ll be in for a life of heartache if she stays, and she says she comes close to it like “no I can’t do this I have to leave” and then forces herself to think he’ll be okay it’s okay etc

    But reality is, he’s only going to get worse and I don’t think she’s ready or capable of wanting that kinda life at all

    She kept asking me “what do I do” “I should end it right?” “Why am I in this situation” “How do I even go about ending it” etc and I told her to take until the end of the weekend to decide what she does, so I really think she is going to break up with him as she was saying it’s the only thing she thinks about now, is worrying about him , and it’s driving her crazy

    It’s a really bad disease and I do really feel bad for him, but he deserves someone who’s ready to set their life aside and be ready for a life of heartache and constant worry just to be with him. I think the fact she’s having doubts this early, that she’s going to break up with him

    But I never know with this girl she could do a complete 180 and decide she’s okay with it. I guess we’ll see

    Today she has been more responsibe to me and actually was kinda flirting with me too, telling me to “use my good looks” to start a YouTube channel or something along those lines haha. Then I said I might and she said “you have the looks for it too”

    Lmao

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114245
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    I think it has become much easier for me not to speak to her now, than it was a week or two ago.. after she told me about the new boyfriend I just kinda felt like there was no more point in trying to get her back anymore.. idk

    She texted me last night to tell me she was proud of me, that I’m doing great and that I’m appreciated.. I asked why and she said no reason, she felt I needed to know and I didn’t reply

    Today, I fully expected no text from her, but again she texted me a tweet and said “Thought you’d appreciate this” I still haven’t opened it

    Is there any reason why she is still wanting to speak to me? Usually when I have a new girlfriend, all other girls I generally lose interest in and don’t really desire speaking to… but she has a new boyfriends and she is still texting me, her ex.. who she was saying she loved 2 months ago, which now she disregards as “I was confused” … what’s going on in her mind?? Lol

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114239
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Yes they dated in 2017 but they would mainly only see each other in college.. once the break started they wouldnt really see each other.. then in 2018 she only saw him in May of that year and no other time.. then only a handful of times like I said in 2019.. so I dont understand why/how “real” feelings developed over texting or anything..

    I’m not trying to sabotage them, I guess I am just asking to feel better myself

    We talked again last night as she messaged me, she basically said that if she knew last year what she realised the other night (about me being coerced into hurting her), it wouldn’t have affected her as much, and she doesn’t see me as someone who caused her pain anymore, whereas before she did and would say that James is the only guy who had never hurt her and was always sweet to her…

    She also said that if we were still involved In any way, she would not have come to the realisation she did the other night, where she was able to genuinenly forgive me for hurting her years ago.. she would always hold it against me and was the reason why she ended things end of 2019 with me..

    When she said the “if we were still involved” thing, I asked if she meant if we were involved like we were recently, and she said she wouldn’t say we were involved recently… I asked her “December?” and she said she wouldn’t consider us involved then and she’s sorry about that..

    She would literally be telling me how much she loves me, how no one gets her or knows her like I do, how I’m the love of her life, she cant wait for our future together, we’d be talking about kids names, she would ask me would I teach our kids her mother tongue or my mother tongue (I said hers, and she said “Ok good”) and she would even ask me if I am just a “fun time” to her.. she said she didn’t see me as just a “fun time” … she was also concerned that I would lose feelings for her before she came back, and made me promise I wouldnt… she also thought one day I DID lose feelings for her.. on 24th December, she was saying she wishes she could give me all the love in the world and that I’m “her John” and that she is so proud of the man I am…

    How can you call that not involved?

    I feel she feels too guilty to come face to face with the reality that we were involved in some way back in December (and the preceding months) as she is in a new relationship 2 months later… I doubt James knows any of what she would be saying to me back then, she has only told him we are “good friends” …. So I think she is saying “technically” we weren’t involved, but telling someone you love them everyday for a whole 3 months is definitely being involved…

    I don’t know why she would say we weren’t? Do you have the same viewpoint as me, that it’s because she feels guilty about it and is choosing to disregard it?

    I dont know why, but I woke up really missing her and really wanting her back… she was always my girl and for the past 3 years she would always be so obsessed and head over heels for me even after we broke up and for all of last year…

    Now she is in a new relationship, she comes back in 5 months which is so soon, and I feel they will end up lasting forever 🙁 I just dont know.. I really want her back but I just dont know what to do as they are now “Serious” … 🙁

    I am going back to NC though for a while until I forget about her.. I give myself a month or two

    I’m not even sure if she will miss me as she has him to fall back on now..

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114237
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Yes I had started NC since Saturday, thats when I found out she was now in a new LDR with him… it still makes no sense to me as you havent SEEN the person for so long and only saw him 3 times in 2019..

    Anyway, I told her I didnt want to be friends anymore and we left it at that

    THEN she messaged me late last night (at 2am, but it would be 9pm in her country) and she was showing me screenshots of messages that jealous BFF who sabotaged us sent to her during that time, and she said something clicked in her and now she believes truly that I was “roped into” all of it and I was a “victim” of all that stuff too.. she says she truly forgives me now..

    The REASON why she ended things with me end of 2019 was BECAUSE she couldn’t get over how I hurt her in 2017, she said she can’t ever get over that and that was the reason she ended things as she would constantly overthink about it and was back and forth with her love for me for so long after we broke up

    Now, she knows that I was innocent in the whole thing, and she said she said she forgives me before but that she didn’t really mean it, but now she knows 100% that I was innocent in that and a “victim” of the mess the jealous BFF created… so now the reason for why she ended things is.. completely gone? Like she ended things with me then and overthought all that stuff for no reason??

    It makes no sense to me.. But I guess it is a plus? She also retweeted something on twitter, it was a tweet that simply said “Love u” and again, it showed me that she liked a tweet about having such bad anxiety that you physically feel sick… I can’t help but think these are to do with me but I may be biased right now..

    It would be perfect if she was single right now and the other guy wasn’t in the picture at all, as now she sees I was a victim back then too, and I never meant to hurt her, I was manipulated and everything, she finally believes everything I had been telling her for so long now… and if she was single she then wouldn’t mind talking to me like that again… but she’s in some weird relationship now with some weird guy who even she recognises doesn’t “get” her or “know” her like I do, they mainly just have fun light conversations and nothing deep like we used to have… and I just dont understand

    I am going to keep up NC indefinitely, or at least for a month or two..

    I really do want her back , but I’m not one to sabotage a relationship so I’m not sure what to do now. She is “locked in” with him now and I cant do anything 🙁 I keep thinking their relationship will just grow and grow and they’ll end up very serious and in love and will get married… it scares me so much bc that “what if” will always be there..

    Like she MUST recognise now that she stressed herself over nothign and blamed me for hurting her in 2017, last year when she was in love with me… she must recognise that now that was all stupid as now she KNOWS I was a victim of the mess the jealous bff created too.. but I cant do anything now

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114227
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    So we talked today, and she told me he asked her over the phone to be his girlfriend.. she said she thought for a sec maybe this is moving too fast, but that they had been acting like they were in a relationship for the past month now and that she’s not too fussed about the label as they don’t mean anything to her, and that if a label means something to him then she is happy about it..

    She also said she thinks he meant a relationship in the sense that now, they have that security and time and space to figure out if this is what they truly want.. I don’t know if she sees it as a lifelong committment, but I know he definitely does

    She says she won’t talk to him about it because they don’t talk about very serious topics, and that she doesn’t love him as they’re “not there yet” and she doesn’t want to talk to him about the relationship and what it means, and what the expectations are because she doesn’t want to deal with that “drama stuff” right now

    She says she is happy being in a relationship with him now, because there are no expectations and no baggage and they are just happy being in the present… obviously being in a relationship means there are some expectations? ie you only get into a relationship when you see a future with this person, NOT when you just like them a lot.. right? thats what dating is for, or am I wrong here?

    She says she is happy to be his girlfriend though

    2 months ago, she would be telling me how she can’t wait for a future with me, would be telling me everyday how much she loves me etc.. and 2 months later she is in a “committed” relationship with the guy she always told me not to worry about, as it “didn’t work out” with them and “won’t work out” with them.. she would reassure me so much when we were together, now a year later after those reassurances they’re together lmao

    It seems like TEXTBOOK rebound relationship to me, as she is just saying how she is happy being in the present with him and taking it chill with him.. I know if he never asked her she would’ve still been happy with him right now… it blows my mind how people can do this

    What do you think of this? All my friends are saying she is acting extremely weird and jumping into a relationship which is destined to crash and burn once reality hits… I feel the same way but I don’t know, she falls in love very easily and becomes attached very easily and this stable option may just end up being the “love of her life”, the title which was once reserved only for me, for the longest time…

    We had a short convo about why I respect myself enough to walk away from this, and that’s what I’m doing, I never want to speak to her or hear from her again I am truly and fully, done.

    We used to call each other “frog” and “dog” when we first started dating and I told her “Bye frog” and she replied “Bye dog” and we left it at that

    The only only ONLY way I would ever take her back is if she told me she liked me, apologised profusely and begged for me back and worked hard to GET me back, that is the only way I’d take her back, but we all know that will never happen..

    It rubs me wrong as she says they get each other well.. but they can’t even talk about serious topics.. how good is the connection when you’re hesitant to speak to your s/o about serious topics?

    This seems like a textbook rebound to me… let me know your thoughts

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114223
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Yeah that makes sense, it seems very hard to do atm but I do hope i follow through with it..

    She said this morning she was crying on the way to work bc she hates her life rn, mainly her job and living where she lives atm. She hates it

    Me and her were the closest and comfiest around each other, we could always just be ourselves around each other and never have to pretend, thats extremely hard to find. As well, I would say, for the most part she was the most happiest with me, but with him, there is a sense of a “fresh new chapter/beginning” if that makes sense… I feel she will still choose him as she is “exploring her feelings” about it..

    I’ll go NC over this weekend and see how things unfold

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114220
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    I always see it online, that NC is the best option.. but before, staying in contact w her as friends has worked for me to get her back, and even for him to get HER back from ME!

    I am kinda having cold feet… I was telling her last night how I’m proud of her etc, and she said the same..

    Do exes always start to miss the person, even if they’re “with” this new person? I keep feeling like it will just drive them closer… It scares me a little bit :/

    Like I really want to maximise my chances of getting her back, but I don’t know how! I feel NC is more about moving on yourself and feeling better without her.. which is nice and I hope that happens for me but I do really want to give it the best shot

    In your honest opinion, if you were in her shoes hypothetically, what would allow her to come back to me? Being close friends and getting closer and talking everyday, or going radio-silence? Won’t radio silence send the wrong message? Idk…

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114212
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    She actually asked me earlier to call her later to “calm her down” as she was freaking out about something at work! … she could have asked her “man” but she asked me!

    We ended up not calling as 5 mins later she said she felt okay now, but she did still come to me about it to call her and calm her down. I think thats a little significant 🙂

    I keep trying NC but she always texts me

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114209
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Thanks for the advice! We actually had a short conversation last night, she had a question and went on a rant about something she read earlier in the day

    We ended it off with goodnights, but we used to call each other “frog” and “dog” when we first started dating in 2017 and I signed off with “Goodnight (frog emoji)” to which she replied “Goodnight (dog emoji)” it was pretty cute haha

    I know I keep breaking NC but I am going to stick with it from today..!

    When the NC period is up, I’ll contact her and slowly build that attraction back as I’ve done before, even when she was physically seeing someone else, not over text as it is now.. although seeing her a lot in person helped back then.

    I also had a really bad dream about her and her new guy, I worked at a shop and they came in and started flirting, kissing, laughing, etc.. i was shaken up when I woke up..

    She asks me still, about girls and stuff, I met up with an old friend recently who I used to date years ago and she said “So how are you and your new gf Rachel?” in a jokey way, when I denied there’s anything there, she started sending winky faces… I told her something about this girl telling me something too and she kept asking who the girl was until I said it was this random one she won’t know who she is and she said okay…

    I’m just confused as, it DOEs seem like she is just trying to be buddy-buddy with me by doing this? I know it might seem like she is jealous.. but it doesn’t sound like it?

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114204
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Yes you’re right, I guess I didn’t understand why it upset her as I saw it as sharing memories with a friend or something

    I wasn’t looking too much into it, but it caught my eye when I saw it, my friend told me its “definitely” about me.. but I do think it’s just about the song

    So, after NC, what am I supposed to do? Like, a month goes by and I slowly just get back to speaking to her, yes? Leaving crumbs Here and there until eventually we start talking all the time like we used to, which brought her back before

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114201
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Sorry for the replies, I dont mean to overwhelm you

    She messaged me 3 times today, to which I only replied to one that was this morning as I said before

    She tweeted something earlier, I think it was song lyrics that went like “to know you is to love you and i love you even still” .. This could be just harmless song lyrics but I’m not sure why she would specifically tweet out THESE song lyrics… you know?

    I’m not one for checking social media, but it showed up on my feed she also liked a tweet about how dating older men gives you anxiety bc of how they text like they’re about to break up with… either it could be a harmless thing she found funny, or, this might mean they’re getting more and more serious..

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114199
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    When we were together, we would discuss problems right away, and she even said she would rather talk to me about it now, rather than let it build up and explode “sometime in April” … which is kinda funny bc that’s what happened, even though we talked about them properly and communicated well most of the time

    With them, she compared it in December, that when they’d have a disagreement, they would take a step back to forget it, then come back and start speaking again… which I don’t think is very healthy? Like, does that not allow it to build up.. I don’t know

    But anyway, I have been NC since today, she initiated contact with me twice today, I replied once and “liked” the second message which was a couple hours later… now it’s been a few hours and no sign of her. I plan to not talk to her indefinitely, or until she plans to have a big talk with me about where her mind is at with things.. It’s a risk losing this amazing connection we have, but I know we will get it back when we start talking again. I want her to experience what life is like without me, ie the consequences of her decisions bc it’s one thing trying to imagine it (which she did, and it made her really upset) and it’s another thing to actually live it.. she hasn’t “lived” it yet, even after we broke up last April we stayed friends. I feel this will allow me to slowly heal from all of this and will slowly allow her to miss me, too.

    I talked to a girl recently who ghosted me in 2017 after we talked for 2 months, she ghosted me bc she wasn’t ready for where our “thing” was going and freaked out. We didn’t talk for around 6 months then, I moved on from her and stopped thinking about her after a while although it did hurt a lot at the time, but she told me recently that she forced herself not to think about me, but she did “quite a fair bit”.. and that was just casual seeing each other, no committment type of thing. What me and my ex had was serious love.

    I want to ask you one thing, sometimes memories popup on my phone of “1 year ago..” etc and sometimes it’s a video of us being stupid or having a nice time or something, and she gets annoyed when I send these to her, to like, share the moment with her? We would talk really light and friendly and it seems it would be appropriate to send her stuff like this from time to time, but nowadays she gets a little irritated if I do… they’re not even “romantic” videos or pictures.. a month ago, she actually asked me to send her ones I’ve never sent before and now, this… I feel like she’s trying to force herself not to remember or remind herself of what we had and how beautiful it was..

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