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  • in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #115107
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Ever since that talk (around 6 May?) she has texted me every single day at least once
    She sent me a screenshot of a video of me that i sent her days ago, like a couple days after that talk
    A couple days after, she said randomly “I can’t believe I’ve seen your penis” “that’s so weird”
    Then I sent her a meme about performing oral with teeth and she laughed a lot and said she was about to send me that. I said I can’t believe I’ve seen her penis Then she said “mines prettier”
    Few days later, she randomly asked me “do u think we were sexually attracted to each other” and was saying how we would have had to work on that part of our relationship due to our inexperience but agreed with me that we both knew what the other liked and did have sexual chemistry. She said she thinks we had great chemistry everywhere else but she doesn’t know about sexually. Not sure why she brought this up lol. But i think we got to an agreement that we were sexually attracted to each other but didnt get many opportunities to explore etc (though we did explore a little bit)
    Then proceeding that, she said this the following days:
    – Said she’s grateful I’m her friend
    – Said I have a comforting voice twice. I sent her a voice message and she said its comforting, then i sent another and she said its so so comforting
    – I said the back of her head looked nice and she said “the back of my head yes” (meaning her ass)

    There was nothing ever since then, wchich was about 2-3 weeks ago. Then last night, we had a talk where she was basically saying how she wont be able to see me alone when she comes back as it would be inappropriate. She agreed it would be different between us as “I’ve always been yours” and that it would feel different. I said it was a bit sad as it felt like the girl I knew moved away forever when she left last October and she said that was sad too. She said that she would be okay with us hanging out with friends though. I have a friend who would always 3rd wheel w us and she said she would be okay with us hanging out that way and getting the odd coffee sometimes in college

    I reallllyyy feel like once she sees me again that some of her feelings will spark back up for me as they always have. Only time will tell. Ive been trying to get closer to her recently but it hasnt really worked although we have texted at least once a day ever since that talk where she said she didnt want to talk everyday..

    Ngl i have detached a little bit emotionally and its not been too difficult for me but I do miss being close to her and taking care of her etc so i will take things slow right now, i think time and space apart will help in us getting close again at some point!

    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Couple days ago, she texted me as she was crying sad as she had a fight w her dad and I called her and comforted her. Later that night, we had a long talk about our relationship and what happened after our relationship etc. it got very heavy

    We both felt weird the next 2 days and she text me last night saying she feels uncomfortable being close friends with me and just wants to be friends, that we dont have to talk everyday etc.

    I made her communicate with me and tell me why she feels uncomfortable so I can alleviate anything. I reassured her I have no hidden agenda and that I only see her as a friend. She said she feels uncomfortable and confused as she likes and wants to be close with me, but knows that her bf would not be happy with it and that she feels uncomfortable hiding it from him, but also feels uncomfortable telling him about it too due to the fact he would be upset.

    I asked if he said he isnt happy with us being friends what she would do and she said repeatedly that she doesnt know what she would do in that situation but that she wants to make her relationship work and she doesnt want to be in a position where she is closer with me and talks to me (her ex) more than her boyfriend. I feel like I already tick those 2 boxes thats why she is concerned very much about it

    We talked and I calmed her down, and she said she feels better. Next morning (so today) she text me saying sorry and that she doesn’t know what BS she was on last night. Convo has been dry as I’ve been busy studying and we havent spoken much since.

    My friend said that she is only feeling uncomfortable because she DOES have deeper feelings for me, more than she would like to admit to herself, because if she only saw me as a friend then she wouldnt be so upset about it. My ex said that if I we never dated then she would have no issue with being close with me, as she was reminded of our “baggage” the other night or something…

    But I think I agree with my friend that she is only feeling uncomfortable as she has feelings for me, while being with her current boyfriend…

    She told me “Never ever underestimate your value in my life”

    What do you think about this?

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114825
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    So not too much has happened since I last posted. Things got dry between us and she got a little unresponsive. One day 2 weeks ago, I was upset about something and she reminded me that I’m the only person who brings her comfort and calms her down, and she means it. Things were cool. We also watched a couple of episodes of a show she wanted to show me.

    We had a small “argument” about her wanting space or something a few days ago – I wasnt in the wrong and she realised this and apologised profusely. The next day I woke up to a huge apology from her and I accepted it. The rest of the day, she was very sweet with me, for example:

    1. I posted a pic on Instagram, one she took of me back when we would hang out in 2018 before we got together, and she replied to it saying “heyy this day was so fun. We should do it again for old times sake” … That day we went suit shopping, to a museum and had lunch and coffee after, it was so nice. She said the museum trip was short but she enjoyed the company (me). I said I always have a great time with her and she said “I could say the same”

    2. Later on, I asked her if she’s free to watch a movie with me later, and she liked my message and said yes she is, we chose a movie and planned to watch it but rescheduled for the next day

    3. The next day, we ended up not watching it as she was genuinely too tired and thats okay. Although, later in the night, she talked to me about something. She told me that she feels guilty sometimes for talking to me, because her boyfriend knows we’re friends and we talk, but he doesn’t know we’re good friends and that we talk as much as we do. She said she talks to me more than she talks to her boyfriend. I reassured her its cool and no big deal. She said her bf is cool with us being friends, but he doesnt know that we watch movies together and talk as much as we do..

    4. She has been decreasingly responsive to me ever since that day she was being super sweet after our “argument” which she fessed up to. Today, she was saying that her bf asked her to marry him over facetime… I was shocked.. later she revealed it was a joke and she’s messing with me.. I’m a little confused as to why she would do this kinda joking with me? A few days ago she also “joked” that her bf was talking to other girls on Tinder and that she was hurt… Why jokes about him specifically.. We facetimed for 2 mins then earlier today and just waved at each other but she had to hang up as her mother walked into the room

    5. I also learned that her best friend despises her boyfriend James. She told me months ago that her sisters aren’t too fond of him either. All of her friends like me a lot so I think that’s a plus in my column lol

    I feel she is slowly and slowly warming up to me… She recognises that talking to me as much as she does is probably not right since she’s in a relationship with her new bf, but she still wants to do that, she still wants to watch movies with me and still wants to call me and stuff.

    I think the “I talk to you more than I talk to him” thing is significant as It shows her and her bf don’t spend too much time “connecting” if that makes sense, especially while being long-distance, texting is important to keep that love alive. And I know the more she speaks to me, the more she becomes drawn to me as well.

    In 2018, a couple days before her thing with the guy back then ended, she said the same thing, that she feels bad me and her talk more than she does with the guy she’s dating…

    But the thing is, she doesn’t feel guilty or bad for texting me, she enjoys talking to me, but she feels bad as she’s worried how it might make her bf feel.

    That’s all the updates for now. Currently I’m trying to get her to watch the movie we planned on watching together, and hopefully will get her on a facetime call pretty soon!

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114562
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    You dont think her saying any of these things:

    ie

    “Idk if it’s weird or if it’s even right for me to say this to u since I have a boyfriend or whatever tf, but you bring me so much comfort, like you’re the only person who brings me so much comfort. Whenever I feel sad I think how much comfort you bring me and any time I feel like my life is just sh*t I think that I have you as a friend and I honestly feel so so much better”

    Means anything? All of my friends are saying that no one says stuff like that to an ex.. especially when you have a boyfriend.. I insist to them that she says we’re only friends but they keep telling me she sees me as more. Shouldn’t her boyfriend be the one who makes her feel this way? She used to mention him everyday but she doesnt really mention him much anymore …

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114516
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    So not much happened since the last message, not sure if I mentioned but her and her man had a fight for like an hour bc he was mad she didn’t like his favourite show

    Then a couple days later told me he made a YouTube video about a certain artist, explaining why he likes him but it was a very strange long video and she said she doesn’t know how to feel about it

    But! Yesterday! She was upset about the current news etc and I comforted her, then she sent a voice message basically saying:

    “Idk if it’s weird or if it’s even right for me to say this to u since I have a boyfriend or whatever tf, but you bring me so much comfort, like you’re the only person who brings me so much comfort. Whenever I feel sad I think how much comfort you bring me and any time I feel like my life is just sh*t I think that I have you as a friend and I honestly feel so so much better”

    Although she said the “as a friend” thing, she acknowledged that saying this to me may not be right as she has a bf, so she may have meant it in a “more than friends” manner ….

    And today! I replied to her story of a selfie of her calling her pretty and she actually laughed, playfully said thank you and called me pretty back! Then, we FaceTimed for 45 mins! I even talked to her sisters and we were talking and laughing and smiling the whole time it was really nice. Then afterwards she initiated convo with me again, thanking me for calling her and saying she laughed so much

    Then she initiated convo again and I didn’t reply till later in the night and we talked for a few hours. She was jokingly going through my old embarrassing Facebook posts and teasing me about them and laughing so much. It was really nice

    Idk, but I just have this gut feeling shes starting to get some kinda feelings back for me… it doesn’t seem like her and her bf are speaking a bunch as they would before as she’s speaking to me a lot these days…

    What do you think of these new updates? What’s your thoughts?

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114426
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    I forgot to include, she was jokingly saying to me the other day “remember the night at the hotel… well I think I’m pregnant” … “remember we held hands” (we got very intimate that night we spent at a hotel a couple days before she left – when she told me she loved me again)

    It was a joke She was making that she got pregnant because we held hands.. but she said it quite randomly so she was thinking about that night…

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114423
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    We actually ended up watching a movie together that night.. was very nice

    Maybe a night or two later she thanked me for making her feel wanted ie I wanted her around

    She also said “you’re the best at making me happy”

    I told her one night a few nights ago how much I appreciate her and she said I make her feel really good and nice.. and that no one has appreciated her more than I do. She started crying so much when I said this to her… I feel like that might be a sign of feelings? Idk

    The next few days, it has been very quiet with her.. 2 days ago she was complaining how her man got mad at her for not liking a show that he loves.. stupid argument and kinda childish of him. Then she was saying she felt weird as she thinks he might be bi (growing up in a conservative household, it was new to her thus made her feel a little weird – but she is okay with it)

    She was also venting to me about how she knows when she tells her parents about him, that it’s gonna create a huge dent in her parents relationship with her. She said she plans on doing it after 2 years, but said “if it even lasts that long lol” which was strange to me that she doubted it for a second

    Yesterday, I sent her a video of me yawning and stretching in bed and she “replayed” it and “liked” the video, and called me “a big baby” – all things she’d do when she liked me

    However, us talking at night is kinda over now, we barely talk anymore. It’s kinda hard.. 🙁 since April started she has been kinda distant with me

    Last week, start of April, I went back and told her I think I do have feelings for her – but that’s it’s okay and I’m not hurting etc.

    Maybe that is why she’s closed off with me more but everything I mentioned (apart from the movie thing) happened after I told her I liked her still

    But I am feeling a little sad about things… she told me earlier that she FaceTimed him and met his brother… made me feel a bit strange still that she likes him that much as to FaceTime him and stuff all the time… I was reading over our old texts of when she’d tell me I’m the one for her etc and that she so sure etc and I just got sad comparing it to where we are today… going to take some space and ignore her for a couple days

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114376
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Hi patricia, would like your thoughts on something

    I followed her on her tiktok, but she “removed” my follow and said that it wouldnt look good if her bf ever went to look at her tiktok page and saw her ex (me) was following her.. i said okay

    Then she was telling me that I’m “the best friend she’s ever had”. “And sometimes im like should we have ever even got romantically involved, bc somehow I feel our friendship is tainted?”

    I asked why she thinks its tainted and she said

    “Like sometimes I just think to myself im so grateful youre in my life.. because you understand me youre always here for me and i feel like nothing we do will ever create a distance between us”

    Then I said that we’re close because we got romantically involved and saw more of each other etc and she agreed

    then asked me if I had feelings for her still to which I said that shes a nice girl, I like talking to her but I dont know bc I havent seen her in so long, “but I dont think I do” (which I know I do, but playing it cool)

    She kinda glossed over it and said that she hasnt seen me in 6 months, but it feels like so much less.. she also agreed that all our nice memories from long time ago (last summer, and before) feel like a couple of weeks ago..

    Then she asked me to watch a movie with her on Netflix which we ended up doing and just finished!

    PS:

    Lately, she has been asking me questions like “if i was still your gf..” and we were talking about a guy who tweets weird things on twitter and she said “if i got with you and saw you tweeted like that id run away” …

    Then this day 3 years ago, we were hooking up in my room (when we first started dating in 2017), and my friend showed up and it was cut short — I also was in physical pain due to the nature of the intimate things we were doing (sorry if this is tmi).. we always joked about this in a flirtatious way like (remember that 😉 ) and I posted a picture of me and my friend from that day today and she replied to it laughing and saying “omg that was this day 3 years ago??” (referring to when I was in pain bc of us being sexual) and i joked saying “worst day of my life” and she said “oh stop hahahah”

    But isnt that a little inappropriate to be joking about with your ex while you have a bf?

    Sometime last week, I also joked about how she always takes good photos of me, and she said I’m easy to take photos of bc I’m goodlooking… as well on Friday we called and she said she wasn’t bothered calling anyone else but she would talk to me as we could just chill on the phone… I think all of these things seem a little inappropriate to be doing while IN a relationship…

    She also said that her sisters really like me, and always say so as well. Then said that her sisters dont really like the new boyfriend… which was funny to me but at least i have some soldiers on the field lol

    But anyway, I am half hoping that she realises slowly that she does like me still (due to the whole “you understand me, youre there for me, nothing can cause distance, youre my best friend” thing, i feel thats such a pure starting ground for a relationship and love, and imo, your s/o should be your best friend who you can say anything to, which I am for her..

    Let me know what you think. Am i on the right track?

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114370
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    So after she had pulled back last week, it went on for a couple days where we barely spoke, or really only spoke at night

    She did her makeup one day to resemble a typical twitch girl or whatever, and kept sending me selfies (bc she thought she looked cute) and asked me “If I was still your gf and I dressed like this what would u do”… today we were talking about someone and she said “If I got with you and I saw you tweeted like him I’d run away” ….

    Then we actually spoke on the phone on Friday, for about 20 mins, she told me earlier in the day she doesn’t want to call as she is too tired, but later called me bc she said she is too tired to talk to anyone but will talk to me bc she can chill or something. At the end of the convo, she gave the idea of watching netflix together, which we did for about 10 mins after the call ended, she had to get up
    She then said we should continue it in the night and I should pick a movie but we ended up not watching anything together as she felt really sick due to cramps etc.

    Then the next day (Saturday I think?) she was extremely closed off with me, didn’t messsage me until the night time. She told me she met her new bf’s dad over the phone for about a minute

    She also told me during the week that she found him on twitter but isn’t going to follow him, he tweets weird things for someone his age, and is super into gaming and watches all the gaming youtubers etc… he just seems like an overall weird guy so it gives me a little hope lol

    But yeah, that is this weeks update. Tomorrow or day after I will try and get her to call again. The convo on friday was very nice, we were laughing a lot and she got excited to watch a movie w me

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114339
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Yeah the past 2 ish days she has been very unresponsive, has been leaving my messages on “seen” a lot and mainly texting during the night or end of the day. We didnt talk at all today, and she messaged me asking how my day was etc. then asked about something medical related (her boyfriend has an appointment and she is worried or something) but her contact toward me has gone kinda cold as of recent..

    She is calling/facetiming her other friends though which is probably taking up most of her time, but I know that she is not so much going out her way to speak to me very much after our phone call 2 days ago..

    Kinda strange that she has pulled back so drastically all of a sudden

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114333
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Hi, Im not sure if you are still following this post, but I will give this weeks update anyway

    on St. Patrick’s day (tuesday), we were talking and I brought up how last St. Patricks day, we went out with my friends and she was saying that day was so fun and such fun times etc. She also got me to try this new japanese cake and she said it was “jiggly and squishy” and said “reminded me of you” (she would always call me squishy, and say she wants to “squeeze me” – in a cute way) and then said my cheeks are squishy (which they are..)
    I then said theres a photo of us from that day that I cant find, but we both look really good and she told me to send it when I found it (I sent it and she agreed we did look very clean)

    Wednesday we didnt speak too much, neither did we on Thursday, she seemed to have pulled back quite a bit.

    Thursday night, she got more responsive. I was telling her about this hoodie that she hated when I wore it when I was with her, and she said “Remember when you visited me at work wearing ripped sweatpants” and I clarified it was bc I had gone out to do groceries and ran into her that day – so wasn’t prepared and she said “Hahahha I know, it was cute” … She said it was cute that I came to see her at work..? I wasn’t expecting this response but anyway. Later that night, she was venting to me about feeling “Sad and crazy” as she is in the new country, has no friends there, only sees her family, has no money, no car, no social life and feels so trapped – so this drives her to be sad and crazy. As well, the whole pandemic going on gives her a lot of anxiety as James (her boyfriend) has an underlying health condition which would make it very dangerous for him – so she constantly has that anxiety still. But she said sometimes she is happy but falls back into being sad and crazy.

    As well as this, she said that she can’t talk about this with James either as he has his own problems and worries to be dealing with right now, but that he is “so supportive and listens” but she feels bad even complaining slightly to him – due to his own health issues and worries right now. Also said she appreciates me for letting her vent etc.

    Then yeserday, I had a morning exam so was busy with that, but she texted me a new song called “Hardest to love” – which I dont want to make a huge deal about but the artist in the song talks about how he knows its hard for his girl to let go of him, regardless of how difficult it is to be with him etc. and she randomly sent it to me and said she thinks I will like it… and said she doesnt like that artist much but that song is a “vibe”.

    Then later yday, we called again! This time the call lasted 34 minutes! We were both very tired and lazy so there were a lot of silences and dull conversations but we did laugh at some points too. We went to the zoo for our 1-month anniversary in 2018, and I was telling her how we can live-stream the zoo now due to the pandemic and she said “why didn’t we do that back then, why did we pay to go see the animals” … then, I was telling her how i was upset that basketball is cancelled, and I would always tell her about updated when we were together and she said “Why didnt it get cancelled when we were together” as a joke which was funny.. but she brought up our old memories twice in that phone call, even subtly, as well as Thursday night, so she is thinking about them a lot.. But I am a little annoyed as the overall conversation was kind of boring and lazy. I hope that didn’t put her off. I apologised for sounding dull as I was tired, and she said I didnt at all, and thanked me for talking to her

    Before the convo ended, she said James texted her earlier asking what’s up and she said nothing, then he asked whats her sisters up to, and she said “watching a movie” and he texted her while we were calling saying “Go join them I’d say” and she couldn’t stop laughing at that – probably due to the fact that it was a very “simple” and strange/boring reply.. she said “what’s wrong with him” in a funny tone while laughing and was saying “I dont mean to say whats wrong with him, hes a nice guy but what the hell” while laughing a lot… then she said she had to go nap and we hung up. But I noticed she didnt really go nap as she was still online lol for a little while lol. But we did talk on the phone, and again it was her asking me to call her!

    I’m still sticking with the plan of letting go, and letting her come to me to “get her back” instead of chasing, which I think has worked ever since I switched my mindset last week – I’ve gotten 2 calls and a facetime call too! We would rarely call each other when we were “in love” late last year, probably due to the fact we would text all the time anyway

    I apologise this is so long and I’m grateful if you read the whole thing, but I would appreciate if you would give me your opinion on all of this!

    Namely, her bringing up our past memories together, calling them cute, calling me on the phone again, etc. and sometimes “complaining” or slightly “making fun” of her man to me

    Today we didnt really speak too much.. which I expected anyway. She was napping earlier and she has left me on “unopened” now, but I dont doubt she is still speaking to her man, James. Which does hurt I wont lie, but I need to keep reminding myself that its only temporary

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    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    It was a joke, I was saying I’d kill myself (kms) if I had to be quarantined with her (ie teasing her)

    I’m 23 in a couple of months

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114321
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    She is 21, turning 22 later this year.. I dont think she is doing anything out of malice. She was a little closed off with me today. Although I joked and said “I’d kms if we were quarantined together” and she replied by laughing and saying “I think it’d be fun, we’d make jokes about everyone and everything.. We’d end up turning evil” or something.. kinda strange ngl haha

    I feel I am looking too much into this though

    She said she still feels anxiety about him and his condition, etc. So I’m not where she is at mentally right now. But she obvioulsy does still like him

    Tonight, she “complained” about him again, asking me do I put my dog to bed because her man puts his dog to bed every night and “idk how to feel about it” …

    in reply to: How to get her back from her new man? (Not a rebound) #114319
    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    An update, on Wednesday she actually found out that her man was following/watching “sexy” girls on Instagram (models, gaming girls, random girls who post those kinda pics) and she was a little upset about it, but didn’t bring it up to him

    On Thursday, she sent me a picture of a famous basketball player asking who it is, saying he’s hot and that she’d “climb him” … then she followed him.. it seemed kinda out of character for her to do this so I think it was retaliation from her boyfriend following hot girls on instagram..

    On Friday, we were talking and she randomly sent me a screenshot of a Snapchat I sent her long ago calling her “my little person” and she said she found it cute that I called her that… I asked her if she still has all our old photos, she said she does but she “shouldn’t really but if my boyfriend wants to stare at other girls I can do what I want” …….

    Then later on Friday, I was saying I find it funny that he is following those types of girls (seems like an immature thing to do – and im younger than him!) and she said “Yeah I find that so crazy” .. she then said that he is into the whole gaming scene as well and that when they were friends she found it funny but now that he’s her boyfriend, she finds it a little bit… strange? That’s not the word but you get what I mean. Like mildly upsetting I guess..

    Then on Saturday, she randomly asked me to CALL her while she was at work.. we had a 20min convo and we were laughing a lot. She also told me that her man got mad at her when they were talking on the phone, and she lied to her mother about who she was speaking to (she was speaking to James, but she said she was speaking to her friend Sophie — due to her parents being like “no talking to boys!” etc).. she said he got mad at her as he thought she was embarrassed of him, so she had to explain it to him, and that he understood but sometimes he says slight remarks like “Tell your mom Sophie said hi” etc to indicate it bothers him.. or something.. and she sounded like she was annoyed by this, and said “ugh I wish he wasn’t white sometimes” (not in a racist way – more of a “why wont he just understand my culture” way, if you get me?)

    That was Saturday, then on Sunday, she cut her hair and I asked her to facetime me and show me, and she did! We talked for about 7mins but as soon as we saw each others faces, we were smiling a lot, it was very nice to see her again.. we had a fun conversation etc

    Although all of this is happening, sometimes I am viewing these things as “signals” but I’m not sure If this is just her being friendly….

    But on the other hand, she has a boyfriend, and is talking to her ex everyday, calling him and now even facetiming him and complaining about said boyfriend to him…

    That’s another thing, she only seems to complain about him to me these days.. yesterday she even said his mother seems “scary” haha..

    Let me know what you think of these updates

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    JohnJ786
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    @patricia12

    Yes, she’s a strong believer in the LoA, but more in a way where “your thoughts become your reality” or “everything happens for a reason” kind of way, so she is trying to keep her thoughts positive, and trusting that everything happens for a reason, which is why she is inthis situation as she feels the universe is trying to teach her something valuable like how to be more selfless and compasssionate ie a learning experience how her other relationships are too

    Also, I forgot to mention, we had a convo the other night, she told me she doesn’t see me as someone who caused her pain, and when she thinks of me, the instant thoughts she gets is that she felt safe, cared for and so important, and someone who valued her thoughts and opinions and what she had to say at a point in her life where all of those things were lacking, she said her and her father have never had a great relationship and it felt nice to have a guy who treated her so amazingly like how I did (I’m paraphrasing but that’s the jist of it), and that I was so great to her and made her feel so nice and safe and important that it “makes her cry” when she thinks about it… but said that she just lost feelings for me and “that happens”.. i said I think it was bc of her instability at the time and stuf she was going through and she said” natural processes of life I guess idk”

    So I think that is really great! Back in October, she had an outburst one morning @ me, and was angry about how I treated her back in 2017, she said her image of me in her mind had been “tainted forever” due to how I treated her.. and this kinda thinking carried on until she ended things with me end of 2019… now she is saying she associates me w feelings of safety, importance, etc. so basically good and positive feelings

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