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Yes, thanks for the reassurance, I can always count on you on a bad day! So, the day has come where this event is happening, and I don’t think she’s going. What a shame! But oh well, I’m sure she’s just busy and have no time for silly little things like this. I can’t be bothered too much by it either, it’s her decision and I just want her to be happy.
I’m so encouraged by your motivation, it makes me feel good! I’m glad we’ve both decided to keep on trucking and keep ourselves busy in the mean time. I have a good feeling about winning her back too, but that will be later when I am a better me. I recently read an article about neuroplasticity and how the brain rewires its neurons once we apply a situation to a feeling. It talks about how we can potentially change the connection between the situation and the feeling once we really figure out the true meaning behind it. I am definitely on another path to figuring out my feelings and I hope this neuroplasticity and my positive outlook will help! š
Okay, I will just give her more time…because I feel like she’ll want to use this time to focus on her work and school and not on us. I would be selfish if I did that, no? I don’t want to pressure her into anything…I’m not in a hurry.
Also, I’ve noticed that she’s stopped looking at my snapchats…I think she’s purposely trying to avoid looking at my instagram or checking my snapchat because she used to do it after we broke up. It’s a weird feeling, and I know I’m looking too much into it, but I can’t help but think that way. Ugh, feelings are always messing me up.
I really applaud you for your courage to carry on with your life, despite your strong love for her. She is missing out on a great man, and I really wish you nothing but the best. Please keep me updated with your situation because I would love to hear how your life is from time to time! š
Okay…I don’t know if this was considered a bad thing, but I signed our group of friends up for this event. Everyone has the option to go whenever they want to, by a certain time. I included her in it because I felt like it would be the nice thing to do. Does that break NC? Technically, I indirectly talked to her…but it wasn’t only to her. It was to our group of friends. I messaged our group of friends about the event, and she didn’t even reply saying anything. I hope she messages me so I have a chance to just talk to her normally. But I feel like she wouldn’t because she wants to still respect my space. I have a feeling she’ll reply in the group chat saying thanks, but that’s as far as it’ll go. I hope she’ll appreciate what I did.
Aside from that, after my exam today, I felt like a brick was lifted off my shoulders! I think I was feeling down the past 4-5 days because I was stressed, and not solely because of missing her. That makes me feel a little bit better because I don’t think I’ve ever felt like that before…I was super confused. I’m a lot more happy now and I don’t feel mopey. What a sigh of relief.
On a side note, did you end up starting NC today?
Yeah Iām a pretty busy guy, but these past couple of days has gotten worse due to the fact that I need to study and do my assignments. When youāre alone, those are the most dangerous times š Iām not so sure sheād contact me regardlessā¦I think as much as she wants her time and space, I think sheās respecting my time and space also. I feel like if I donāt contact her, she wonāt contact me, because she doesnāt know how Iām feeling and how Iām doing. Sure, she might get curious, but curiousity wonāt be enough for her to contact me. Itās just up to me right now, in my opinion. I only have a week and a half left before NC is over. I donāt know if I should contact her because she still has a week after that before sheās off for winter break. If I send her a letter during her last week, she might not have the time nor the mental capabilities to deal with me until winter break anyway. Itās weird because the first day of her winter break is the day where our friends are supposed to get together for a Christmas party. So SHOULD I send her the letter right after NC ends? Just so I can peak her interest and spark a conversation during the party on what Iāve been working on? I just want her to be happy and I want her to do the best that she can do at work and school without having me as a deterrent. This is a head scratcher :ā(
Man, itās a hard position to be in. I know you both love each other, but NC is honestly the best way to go in my opinion. Every time you and her meet up, itās just going to get harder and harder to let go of each other for the time being. Unless she leaves him, this is just going to hurt you more and more. As an internet friend, I am really suggesting that you no longer speak with her until she figures things out. Itās not fair to you and itās not fair for the other guy to get dragged along like this. The grey zone is ultimately the worst position to be in because nothing is certain, and anything can happen if she changes her mind. This way, it gives the both of you clear cut ideas of what needs to be done in order to get back together or go your separate ways. Please be a little selfish and take care of yourself first!
You’re welcome @lacume! Anything I can do to help a fellow broken hearted one, I will try my best. Just know that no matter how hard things get, time will heal all. Remember to fight your urges and maintain good discipline!
Kevin maintains that no matter what the situation is, it is always salvageable. Regardless of what I think or what Kevin thinks, I believe you will know best as time goes on. Emotions no longer take over your actions, and instead, you will think with logic. Hopefully your ex will feel the same. I wouldn’t read too much into him moving away, he may just be trying to get a reaction out of you. The question you should ask yourself is, what IF he moves away? The logical me will tell you right now, I’m sure you won’t be waiting forever for him. Maybe that will help you move on from him, not that I’m saying you should move on, but it’s another alternative if things don’t work out the way you want it to. Remember, Kevin does say, when you accept the fact that these steps won’t necessarily guarantee his return, you will be emotionally stable enough to speak to him.
What I got from talking with @amcee is, if you truly love him, you will love him no matter what happens. If he’s happier without you or if he’s happy about moving away, you should be happy for him. Because that’s what true love entails in our definition of love. Of course, getting back with him would be an ideal situation for you, but if it doesn’t work out, then it doesn’t work out. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but you have to prepare yourself for the worst scenario possible.
My story is here: https://ebpforums.com/boards/topic/what-should-i-do-29/ It’s a brief read and the discussion below goes further into explanation through my past two and a half weeks. Enjoy the read, there’s a lot of things I learned just from chatting with @amcee. Please join in on the conversation if you feel like you want to put in your two cents! š
@amcee Thank you, I am studying hard for it! Realistically, yes, most likely, time is on my side. But it just bugs me all the time that I can connect with her at any time but I can’t because of this stupid NC. It’s so hard to fight my urges, I’m trying though! I’m a little worried because my school ends in another week, but she’s not really free until December 16, I feel like I’m going to get super anxious because I won’t be as busy a week from now. I will still have work but my evenings will be filled with nothing. It’s definitely digging a hole in my heart right now, just anticipating that.
Thank you very much for mentioning that though, it definitely does boost my confidence. How’s it going with you? Any updates? Are you still in touch with her or are you restarting your NC again?
Sorry for the late reply, Iāve been busy with my assignment! Iām so proud of you, @amcee! Itās awesome how you mature you are and how much you are improving yourself through keeping yourself motivated and busy. I think due to the fact that Iām also quite a busy person, I donāt think about it as much anymore. Like I told you before, the mornings are the worst. BUT! I am proud to say that I did not have a dream about her last night, I slept quite peacefully and woke up at my normal internal clock hours!
Itās weird, but I also gained a bit more confidence last night due to an unpredictable event. I took a selfie yesterday before going out and posted it on snapchat, and then the ex before my last ex contacted me saying she heard about what happened and seemed genuinely concerned for my well being! I was entirely caught off guard by that and she proceeded to make me feel better by telling me that I deserve better and that my ex was not good enough for me. She also told me that she loved me and still loves me to this day and she doesnāt know why. Iām not sure if that was the caring type of love or the āshe wants to get back with meā type of love. Either way, I donāt think I would go back to her because sheās changed and sheās not the girl I fell in love with in the first place. But knowing that someone out there genuinely cares for you, and someone who loves you so deeply stillā¦It was truly touching to feel that. Almost to the point where I felt like, I was her and she was me in my current predicament.
Back to now, yes, I may have time on my side, but I think time may also be working against me. What if the time I take to heal gives her enough time to forget about me? I am so scared of acting a certain way in front of her if I see her, that she may see through me. Itās funny that you tell me to put everything away, because thatās the first thing I did on the first day we broke up, I put everything away and just stuffed it in a corner. I did not need to be reminded of us.
I will definitely try your activity when I have a little bit more time! Right now, Iām in the midst of finishing up another assignment thatās due in two days and studying for an exam thatās in three days. Thanks for the encouragement and you are awesome š
Hi @lacume,
I don’t know if I’m the person you want to hear this from, but you are too impulsive! I know the urge is strong to contact and reply to them, but you need to fight those urges. The more mysterious you make yourself, the more he will think about you. Also, I believe you are overanalyzing a lot of things. The point of NC is for you to improve yourself and this improved self should INCREASE your chances of getting him back. It is not a surefire way, so the only thing you can do right now is to improve yourself. Get back to where you were and go beyond that!
Whatās done is already done, I strongly suggest that you do not contact him or reply to him anymore. It seems like the playing field is tilting towards him because you were readily accessible. You were readily accessible during the two months of ābreak upā, and you are readily accessible now. You have to make it seem like youāre starting to get over him by doing things for yourself. Go have some fun, enjoy yourself, learn some things about yourself and see what you can improve. Better yet, if there were things that he did not like about you, things that made him not see a future with you, work on those and then when youāre emotionally ready, talk to him.
At this moment, youāre just digging yourself a bigger hole to climb out of. Whenever you have the urge to talk to him or do something that has to do with him, I would say go and preoccupy yourself with something. Sports, games, food, hanging out with friends, exercise, hobbies, etc. The times that you spend alone are the darkest, and most dangerous times. You allow yourself and your mind to run free and go through all of the possible scenarios that could happen. Especially during these times, your most negative scenarios will prevail. You need to be stronger, take a deep breath, and trust that things will work out as time moves along.
Thereās one part of the 5 step plan that truly resonated with me: Before you contact your ex, you have to accept the break up and be okay with the fact that you may never get your ex back. As harsh as that sounds, we have to prepare for that. But what you get out of all of this is that you WILL be a stronger person in the end. You will have learned more about yourself than youāve ever gotten to know. You will be able to withstand a lot more adversity than before. But you must first understand to get to that level, you ABSOLUTELY need to fight through your urges. Itās more of a mentality test than anything. Yes, it will hurt. Yes, itās a grueling process. Yes, you wonāt be able to sleep or eat well. But guess what? Time heals all. There will come a time; a week, two weeks later that you will be able to resume your normal every day life. Donāt let your mind take over. Control yourself because you want whatās best for yourself. Be the best that you can be, not for him, but for you.
I’m sorry if this was a bit intense. It’s because I went through a similar phase that you’re about to go through. I just don’t want someone to suffer as much as I have, it’s absolutely terrifying how the mind can eat you up and spit you out. Please have faith and just push yourself to the limit. I believe in you! š
-Kneechan
Yes, NC would probably give him time to clear his head and the negativity associated with you. If you have done all you could do, all you can do is wait at this point. I don’t even think you can help heal his wounds at this moment in time. You do have the ability to help him heal, but it will have to be after your NC ends, not right now.
You have issues to work out yourself, so I would advise you to improve on yourself before continuing on with him and the idea of a relationship. Respect his space and respect your own space, if he sees that you have actually changed, it will show in how you interact with him and how you hold yourself. Take this time to heal up yourself and become emotionally stable before approaching him. It may take two weeks, it may take a month, it may take longer than a month. The month-long NC is only an approximation: if it takes you longer to heal, then take longer to heal. If it happens that you feel like you’re emotionally stable before the month, I would still suggest to wait out the month, just because your mind tends to play tricks on you from time to time. Ultimately, you know yourself best. Be sure to hold your head up high and be confident!
@amcee From what youāve been saying, I really believe that this person is not good for her. In my past experience, you are not the person she needs to hear this from though. She needs a third party to confirm her feelings for this relationship and give her the extra push to go through with breaking up with him. Because you are part of the problem, I feel like she gets even more anxious to try to pressure herself to get this done. It seems that sheās also veryā¦obedient to what her family thinks and says? I think at this point, thatās the third party that she has, and that third party is making things extremely hard on her because they like him. It almost seems like the only way you guys can be together is if she leaves her family for you. No matter what though, you are doing the best that you can to handle this situation, the rest is up to her. Thereās so much more of life to enjoy, enjoy it all and improve yourself in the process! š
Thank you very much for the compliments! I really appreciate the reassurance and I really hope it pays off in the future. Iām just super anxious to talk to her and it just kills me right now. I canāt even focus on the paper Iām supposed to write, nor can I focus on the exam Iām supposed to study for. Itās the fourth straight day where Iāve had a good dream about us being together. Once I wake up and find out that itās all a dream once again, I get extremely bummed out and think about the past. Itās such a heart breaking cycle. Whatās even more heartbreaking is that Iām not even sure if Iām going to be fully emotionally stable by the end of NC. For you, it seems like it took longer than a month for you to get to this stage where itās okay if you lose her, since itās for her happiness. But I have yet to reach that stage, and it feels like it will take me longer than the next two weeks to get to the stageā¦Iām so conflicted. I know Iām working on myself, but itās still a tough road to trek when youāre alone. I just want to talk to her š
I guess youāre right, giving her time and space is probably the best thing to do for her well-being. I think itās just gotten pretty bad, because Iāve been having dreams about us getting back together for the past three nights. Itās killing me when I wake up, I donāt want to have these dreams because it gets me super sad in the morning. It got better this afternoon because I got to talk to a life coach today and he really instilled some serious thoughts into my mind. Got me thinking about my future and what my ideal life would look like in the future. It basically steered me away from thinking about her, haha. What a strange thing the mind is.
I’m super grateful to have had a relationship with my ex, she’s super sweet, nice, and caring. I feel like such a fuck-up sometimes for messing it up. If only I paid attention to all the details, I would’ve been able to put in place some corrective action. I am a better man because of her, and I am still continuing to be a better man because of what happened between me and her, I am so fortunate. I really wish I could have another chance to repay her kindness.
Thatās quite sweet of her to call and say good night and good morning! It does suck how it seems like sheās dragging herself along this thoughā¦itās so unfortunate š I really hope you guys can work this mess out. If this is really meant to be, the other guy will surely sense that something is wrong with her, and maybe itāll drive him away from her eventually? Itās such a big headache just thinking about it, but Iām so impressed at how well youāre handling it. Maturity goes a long ways when it comes to love and youāre handling it with care and caution. Itās going to take a while, but it will work out in the end, and you will come out a better person no matter what happens. Iām here for you, M! š
Hi @lacume,
Yes, I can see how he would be scared to commit to you. I am in the position where my girlfriend just recently broke up with me. If she were to ever come around and ask for me back, I would be very hesitant as I do not want to get hurt again. I can tell you from my perspective though, if I was in his shoes, I probably still love you, I’m just super uncertain because of how deep the cut is. So deep, that there may be a scar. I just need to be sure.
You may have to show him that you actually do mean what you say and prove it. How can you prove to him that you are ready? Is your definition of ready the same definition of his ready? It sucks that you guys broke up, is there a way you guys can work things out before getting to that point? I guess the be-all, end-all question is, what’s different between the you now and the you from before? Because with all he knows, he might be setting himself back up for failure if he goes through with this again. The cost of heartbreak is too much, it takes a long time to heal, but you also have the ability to help him heal his wounds quicker.
Most likely, he is still upset over the break up. I’m not sure if NC will actually do anything at this moment since you guys had a 2 month break already. Were you guys talking in between those two months?
-Kneechan
@amcee, so basically what youāre saying is as long as C is happy, any outcome is fine? She is very lucky to have someone like you waiting for her, I hope everything works out in the near future. Itās very humbling and Iām very happy to hear that. I donāt think Iām at that stage yet, but Iām sure I will get there soon. I want nothing but the best for her, and if thatās not meā¦I can only go on with my life.
Iām not sure why, but today has been a roller coaster of emotions for me. I kept thinking about her and I kept replaying what she said to me that very day when we officially broke up. Itās so hard to stay positive and improve yourself when there are so many conflicting thoughts piling on you. Youāre right, she probably hasnāt gotten over me yet, and does think about me from time to time, but that still doesnāt mean sheās willing to give me another shot. For all I know, she could be enjoying her freedom without having to worry about me. If thatās the case, and if she negatively associates her freedom with me, then Iām in for a big battle. I have to be able to convince her that I am a good fit for her and convince her that I can treat her to the best of my abilities, with what Iāve learned throughout the past little while. Sheās also not the type to just get into any relationshipā¦I was technically her first real relationship.
Ahh all these negative thoughts are filling my head right now and I donāt even know why. It might be because Iām stressed too since I have a couple of assignments and a final exam coming up in the next week. I canāt wait until theyāre over and I have some more time to myself. Iām not really too worried about her noticing meā¦Iām more worried about what she thinks of me. Iām quite fearful of the unknown, and I just get more and more anxious. Iāve also began thinking about writing the letter to herā¦I only have around 2 and a half weeks more before I can send it. But then again, I should just send it whenever I feel emotionally stable to handle whatās to come after I send the letter. Two and a half weeks is only the temporary time to the end of NC.
Sigh, itās been a long day. I should sleep earlier so I can get to tomorrow earlier. Hope things are going well with you, M!
Hey @amcee, Iām not sure if you get the same sense, but it seems that she is a little emotionally unstable. On top of that, she was jumping from you to him and back to you. How I was raised, if a woman ever did that to me, I would never take her back just because she was unfaithful. I understand she is your childhood best friend turned gf, and now your ex, but will this relationship be beneficial for the both of you? What happens if business gets in the way of your relationship, which it sort of already did? I just hope this isnāt a case of attachment issues, because it does seem like every time she comes crying, you try your best to comfort her and make sure she isnāt hurt. Iām not so sure sheād be able to do the same for you. On a positive note though, you guys are childhood best friends, so both of you will know what each otherās likes and dislikes are. If you do get back together, I would suggest you both sit down and talk about some of each otherās expectations in the relationship, and not to mention follow through with it. Iām just being brutally honest with you because I feel like I care for you like a fellow friend. Please donāt take offense to anything I say.
Itās so weird, but itās only been a week and a half since my break upā¦but I feel revitalized due to my personal goals. I have no one but you and people on this forum to thank. Itās been getting me through each and every day without having to think too much. I have been indirectly using my friends to show her that Iāve been happy. Snapchat, Instagram, Facebook all have a picture or two about what Iāve been up to and how happy I look. Needless to say, it is just a shell, but I am slowly getting better! Thereās no time for negativity, because after I work on myself, itās either going to work out or it wonāt work out. I would have no regrets from trying, with the exception that I couldāve been able to treat her better knowing what I know now. I do try to look at her happiness as my motivation and if being together is not what makes her happy, I would have to respect her wishes. Iāve realized that everything is going to be okay, itās part of the growing process, and I am willing to go through it despite it causing me an absurd amount of pain from time to time.
Hi @Simon, welcome to the chat! Thanks for taking the time to read our long and drawn out chat, it really helps declutter your mind and hopefully think a bit straighter.
It sounds like from your story, that she does still care about you, but something (Possibly stemming from your arguments and discussions) has drawn her away from you. Very much like my ex, it may also be due to the fact that she needs time and space to herself. Why I might interpret that, you might ask? She followed you in the rain, she held you in her arms, etc. People donāt do that if they donāt care about you. If it makes you feel any better, at least she followed you, mine just drove away as I went into my house after she broke up with me. xD
Personally, I think you need to be stronger and not beg anymore. Begging for her love will only push her away more because it makes you look weak and pathetic. And like Kevin, amcee, Patricia, all have said, but not in these exact words; nothing makes a girl more giddy than confidence and strong emotional stability. Begging is the total opposite of that. Grieving is part of the process, but you gotta be able to understand that in order to get her back to the point where she loved you, you have to become the man she fell in love with in the first place. Iām sure you didnāt go up to her and ask her to be your girlfriend with a crying face and droopy shoulders back then.
If seeing each other at the university is inevitable, I would say to just suck it up and embrace it. Say hi to her with a smile if you both see each other, just to be civil. If you see her first but she doesnāt see you, it depends on you. If you are in NC, I would strongly go against it, just because itās something within your control.
If you really want her back, you have to show that you are capable of change. Itās going to be a gruelling process. You wonāt be able to eat, sleep, or do much in the next week or so because it is a gut-wrenching feeling. But think about it this way: Using the NBA, losing your girlfriend is like the Golden State Warriors blowing a 3-1 lead to the Cleveland Cavaliers, in which the Cavaliers won the series 4-3 in the NBA Finals. It was a gut-wrenching experience for them, and they were super sad that they lost. Now, if you were the GSW, would you say āOh shit, I just lost the series, Iām just going to mope and be sadā? Or would you acknowledge the fact that you blew a 3-1 lead, but come back stronger next season with a better team (AKA Kevin Durant joining them in the offseason)?
Even with your new additions (New clothes, new confidence, etc), thatās not going to guarantee you a victory. But it DOES give you a better chance at going all the way and winning the ultimate prize if you were put in the same position, up 3-1 in the Finals. Think of the 82 game season, and 16+ games in the playoffs as part of your process, with the championship (your girlfriend) as the ultimate prize.
Lastly, I would not even worry about the letter and meet up yet. It drove me insane just thinking about it when NC was just recently implemented. Take this time to get to know yourself; what youāre good at, what you need to improve on, and be truthfully honest with yourself. Only you know yourself best, and only you know what you can do to impress the girl of your dreams. You got her once before, youāre ahead of the pack because you know what she likes and dislikes already.
Good luck, Simon! We’ll be here if you need to talk.
-Kneechan
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