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    sevensevens
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    Hello. Just want to start by saying this seems like an excellent site, with great info, and everybody seems real understanding of the similar heartbreak.

    Ill try to get this as short and to the point as I can. Could really use some insight. Considering how internet savy my Queen is, the places and names have been changed to protect my chances of not having my cover blown.

    I met my Queen 2 and a half years ago on the internet. I never thought much of talking to people on the internet, but I knew she was real, I wasnt getting catfished, and she was awesome to talk to. We eventually began talking on the phone, which led to talking on the phone for long periods of time til the sun came up (those were the days). Unfortunately, she lived several states away (somewhere around a ten hour drive). However, I am a musician that tours every year, and I just happened to be going through her state soon.

    As fate would have it, my travel got completely thrown off key and I ended up being stuck in, you guessed it, her state. So we got to meet in person (keep in mind I was already really feeling her before I even really got to see what she looked like considering all of her pictures looked different and didnt really do her justice). The second I saw her in person, I knew I was in trouble. I have never been so attracted to someone in my entire life. I was already falling hard with her just from our conversations, And it turned to be vice versa. Well, we ended up falling deeply in love with each other. Which led to her deciding to move with me states away. We didnt really plan it well, and knew that we loved each other enough that we couldnt be far away from each other anymore, and we would make it work no matter what. I (at the time) couldnt move to her state because I had a good job, was doing very well (nationally) with my music, and it looked like since I was going to be the breadwinner of the two of us eventually, that she should move up here and that would be the choice that made sense.

    Eventually I toured in her area after we decided that, and I ended up helping her pack and she moved with me states away after this tour ironically ended in her state. I got her a job before she even moved, and scouted out all the schools that had programs for her major.

    The next year and a half was literally perfect. The “bliss” stage as Im seeing it now. This woman was literally perfect for me. My nickname for her was along the lines of my “supreme design”. And I mean it with no bullshit. Literally. If I had the opportunity to design everything I wanted in a woman via a computer program. It would be her. Sense of humor was literally the same as mine, same music (for the most part), same movies, same style, gorgeous, amazing body, sweet, same thoughts at the same time, we could go on for hours. I told my mother, friends, family, everyone…”I found my Queen”

    Eventually, with her being the super introvert, it became very difficult for her to get out of her box and meet people. Which eventually led to her resenting the fact that I did have friends I could go see. This led to her getting really homesick from her family, friends, and hometown environment. Which I can completely empathize with and understand. I tried to link her with female friends of mine with similar intersests, but none of them really cut it for her.

    Not too long after this time period, she lost her job and her car. Which ultimately made her REALLY homesick. Before she could just drive wherever she wanted, had money to do so, and could do whatever she wanted. Now she basically only had access to a car that I share with someone else. She ended up falling into a serious depression. Literally watching tv from the sun came up until I fell asleep after working a 10 hour day, then clocking right back into music. The ways that she would show me she loved me started to drift away, and most of the romance, energy, so on, was coming only from me.

    So, I noticed she was extremely homesick. I secretly contacted her best friend, told her what was up and basically said, If I buy her a roundtrip ticket and send her down there so you guys can hang out, can you please take her around and show her a good time, make sure she is all set to stay with you, etc. She agreed and we secretly set it up. Shortly after reaching out to her friend, we got in a tiny dispute, and she basically said F-it, Im leaving.

    Once she got there she started spending alot of time with her friend, her friends husband, and their newborn baby. Which led to her remembering all the talks we had about getting married, having children, starting a family. She got mushy, and said she was going to come back and change everything, start appreciating me more, not resent me, and we would start our family soon once she got a job and we had our own transportation/living (I have a roomate, which also led to us not getting too much quality time/privacy). I was so happy. I really thought I was going to lose her forever.

    The problem on my end, has been that I put way more effort into achieving my dream than anything else (because I know that a: it is achievable for me, and b: there is a lot of potential for me to make a lot of money). Tho I told her from the get go, “look I have to tell you upfront, I have a dream, I am very good at what I do, and I focus a lot of energy into it”. (You wouldnt go to school and then drop out right before you graduate). To which she understood and even found attractive. I also asked her “are you good with money?” to which she replied “no” and we both decided that we’d have to be very good and sharp with money and saving. Spending insane amounts of time writing, being in the studio, and basically being my own manager/booking-agent led to her resenting me in the worst way. Though, I have a dream, and was planning on sharing every thing with her just for understanding. So even though I was working more on me and not as much on us, it would in the long run be for us. Though she got pretty insistent with me focusing more on a career (I have a good job, not crazy paying, but stable, and Im pretty good at my day job as well as the music), I always knew in the back of my mind, its probably not a good sign that she is insisting this. Either I secretly suck and thousands of people have been gassing me, or she doesn’t believe in me. Either way, I do, and I knew once I started to fully support us off of it, she would completely understand and even encourage it.

    Well, out of nowhere a cpl days ago I woke up at the crack of dawn and she was throwing things in her backpack. I asked her where she was going, she sat down and said “Im leaving”, then went right back to packing. So being an intelligent man who has fudged up serious in the past by saying stupid things at sensitive times, I walked into the other room to smoke a cigarette and figure out how I could get her to stay. Within a minute I heard a beep outside, it was a cab. So she walks past me, says “dont hate me”, hands me a note for me and my roomate and walks out the door. I follow her downstairs and she just gets in the cab and leaves. I get in the car, drive to the train station, and run to the train. She is on the upper deck of the train. I knock on the window and put my hands up asking her “baby where are you going” (Im young, but old soul. I come from the era of if you love someone and your having problems, you work it out after your anger and emotions have cooled). She just looks at me. So I leave. I got home and sent her an email basically telling her “I love you so much, Im not mad just devastated, and told her how crazy and out of the blue it was for me”. And of course, since we both say the same stuff at the same time, I got a message from her simultaneously saying she “is so sorry, didnt know how i would take it, needs to better herself instead of depending on me, shes gotta go back to school, we will always be “friends” (nooooooooo), and she thinks that we should be “individuals” for now. On one hand, I completely understand this. I too have felt like I was moving backwards, and have had to go home to re-root. On the other hand if she really loved me as much as I thought, wouldnt she bring this up to me before she was going to leave? Or at least give me an ultimatum. Or try and figure a way to work it out. Granted Im sure her leaving the first time was quite the hint, and there were probably millions of others that I paid no mind like an idiot, I just thought our love was strong enough to survive anything (especially after the first time).

    So, yesterday she calls me. I answer. We didnt really talk for more than a couple mintues because her friend was taking her to a concert. But, as we’re talking, shes telling me that she wants to link me with another artist I should work with and says she told him “my friend ——-“. Of course, I sigh the sighest sigh of all time, and she has to go. I performed the day before this call and was hit on by a number of woman that Im 99.9% sure I could have hooked up with. Also, alot of my friends are telling me to just start seeing other women, some of whom are hearing about us, and already on the prowl for me. I am not egotistical by any means, but Im aware of my worth. Im pretty talented and rather handsome. Getting with women has never been an issue for me, but all I ever wanted from the moment I laid eyes on her was her. And, thats how I feel now. I get the notion that hooking up after something like this can help you through it somehow (has in the past), but I cant even begin to think about it.

    So shortly after the call, I started googling “best ways to get back my –“. Which led me to this site.

    I have a lot of questions, and would appreciate any advice period.

    1. I understand the No Contact thing, its actually always been a method of mine. But what about in long distance scenarios.

    2. Shes still got me listed as her man on facebook. What is this all about?

    3. How could she possibly sound so happy after leaving me. I understand she is probably really excited to see her friends, family, familiar places, but damn. Is there any missing me at all going on? Is the reason she is so quickly over me cause she rebounded with someone in her homestate already?

    4. Have I already messed up the No Contact by talking to her (keep in mind, this hasnt even really concluded as a breakup in my eyes cause its so confusing, has been about 3 days).

    5. Am I the worlds biggest idiot for not just sticking my ground and basically telling her “you must be out of your mind for leaving me”

    6. Am I an assh*le for not completely understanding she has to handle her life (if thats really why she left). Couldnt she have gotten herself together here?

    7. What really is the best way to go about this situation? Do I not talk to her at all? Do I try to fix things before we’re officially (according to facebook) seperated? Do I tell her I will relocate to where she is if it means we can stay together and work on our relationship (I would do it at this point in a heartbeat)? Do I just stay here, motivate to work harder than I ever have with my career/dream/stability situation?

    8. I checked the site for relationship rewind, and it is kinda giving me the opposite advice that Im getting here (or at least Im interpreting it like that). Have any of you ever used it?

    Im lost. I give great advice, but suck at hearing it myself. This is actually my first time hitting the internet family for advice. Usually when people hurt me, I have absolutely no problem cutting them off. But this feels impossible. Every song I hear reverts to her, every show we ever watched is re-running just for me to feel terrible, Im in the house with her stuff all in my space. I havent really had an appetite since the day she left. I miss her so much.

    Please help me out. I know not all of the insight will be exactly what I should hear, but I know it will help.

    Thanks for listening 🙂

    #1330
    Pointer
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    I’d say really just stick to NC right now. It’s very likely that she has thought about this for quite awhile, and was internally rationalizing it in her head. She’s probably riding on some kind of high right now, thinking it’s for the best, that she can’t go back on her decision, that it had to be this way, that you’re better off without her, ect. If you give her the time and space to think about it and miss you and everything you guys did together eventually she’ll start to falter.

    #1332
    sevensevens
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    Thanks. I hear that. I think that that is more or less what happened before. But is the NC so strict I should avoid every greeting, text, msg, everything? What if she is feeling me out and I mess it up by appearing cold? We text alot, and in the past it has been easier for her to tell me things via text.

    #1333
    Dezzen
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    As for number 8 I am going to get relationship rewind, my worry was the No contact rule where it suggests that NC isn’t the way to go. Kevin stated that relationship rewind it is recommended you use NC when you’re at something called deaths door but Kevin suggests it at all stages, I suppose it’s just different methods or ways of dealing with it, I am at day 3 of NC and it is starting to help me think better.

    Although I am no expert. I haven’t got it yet as I don’t have my pay check yet hahaha

    #1334
    sevensevens
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    Also, since we are still linked online, and we have a lot of mutual friends, do I just carry on like normal or go out of my way to show that I can do just as good if not better by myself for the time being.

    #1337
    Pointer
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    I’m not sure really. I think since you mentioned she was super introverted and wasn’t very comfortable with going out and meeting new people, and the fact that she seemed to really want you to focus on a career that isn’t music makes it seem like she wants rock solid stability in her life.

    But beyond NC or LC, you have to really think for the future. I can see that you have great passion and dedication to your music. Would you really give it all up for her? Your answer today seems to be yes, but what about in a month? Or 6? Or 5 years? If you did give it up for her do you think you’d regret it or resent her for it?

    I know how you’re feeling, and it’s rough. Gotta keep in mind though is that love makes you do crazy things..

    If you’re really set on maintaining contact, be wary. For all we know she could be trying to ween herself off of you slowly.

    #1339
    sevensevens
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    Great insight. And once again thanks for helping me.

    Well, a good example to go with is this.

    My father was an incredible athlete. He could have been a legend. There are literally bags and bags of articles and magazine clippings on him from the 70s and 80s. For some reason or another, he ended up being a laborer and never went as far as he should have, even though he had it.

    My wonder is this. Could I also have all the talent and potential for what I do and still not reach where I should. Then I would really be kicking my own a** for eternity. Not attaining it, and still losing her. And your right, right about now I feel like I would give away everything just to prove it to her and show her, but who knows how resentful I would be eventually.

    On the flipside, I know that no dreams are achieved without the utmost hardwork and determination.

    Another question I have. She messaged me last night when I was asleep telling me it was a great show and she had a good time back home with her friends. I answered this morning and told her I was glad she had a good time and that I missed her text cause I was exhausted from work and performing at my show. Never got a reply. Now is the time to implement NC?

    #1340
    sucker
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    sevensevens,

    It might help you to know that I left him 4 days ago and I am absolutely beside myself. I am obsessed and totally miserable. He was using me, simply put.

    From a woman’s point of view, you lower your value IMMENSELY when you contact her. I’m four days out and when my ex contacted me I thought, “that’s right, punk, suck it.” I slightly broke the No Contact rule because I had to poke him a little and text: “busy, update ltr” and then of course never text. That is completely out of character for me to him so I wanted to twist the knife. Vindictive? No. Just setting the hook so I can reel him back in 30 days.

    The problem I see is her fear of your big social/business life and the contacts that gives you. To a person like her, it could be hard to take. Eventually you’ll tell her you meet people everyday and all you see is her face, they speak and you only want it to be talking to her.

    I digress. You know, nothing is set in stone and everybody is different. Do no contact as long as you think she can handle it, increase your value. Trust me, as a woman who knows (I left HIM and I’m sick right now) she IS as devastated as you are.

    Rock on, Tiger.

    Sucker

    #1342
    sevensevens
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    Thanks. Great to hear it coming from the opposite side, from the opposite perspective. But how long ago were those texts? And when did you start to regret everything?

    #1343
    Pointer
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    About your career.. if you put everything you had into it, yet “failed” would you see it as a waste? Do you see it as a journey or a destination? If you don’t achieve your ultimate goal that doesn’t necessarily mean it wasn’t worth it all along as long as you enjoyed the ride.. the journey.

    I don’t think a woman truly wants a man to give his all to her. She said it was a very attractive thing that you had a dreams you were very very passionate about. The problem is that it wasn’t a stable enough dream for that particular woman’s needs.

    I’m not saying to give up and throw in the towel on her, but I do think potentially giving up your dreams is something you really need to think about..

    If you want to start NC, but don’t want her to be mad and think you’re ignoring her then you need to tell her that you guys are stopping contact for awhile. If that’s the route you take, then I would wait for her to start contact with you and then tell her if that’s what you want.

    #1344
    sevensevens
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    and how will i know if she can or cant handle it?

    #1345
    sevensevens
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    So your saying, NC until she reaches out to me with obvious feelings of wanting to reconcile and repair everything the right way? Then tell her I would be willing to move with her and continue everything from there?

    #1346
    sevensevens
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    Also, What do I do if she tries to contact me from another persons phone I dont recognize and I answer it

    #1347
    a.z
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    hey,
    I know hoe exactly you feel,i totally understand you but please stop overanalyzing everything about her.
    I’m sure she still has feelings for you.start NC,get the relationship rewind and try to find a good job or school for her.i think she has been feeling bad when you were trying to work and save money and she couldn’t do the same thing.
    Its good that both of you care about each other’s goals in life and its really attractive.
    The reason you broke up here is more about her.if you read relationship rewind you will understand it better.when she lost her job,it made her lost her self confidence and she was feeling really bad.i think she couldn’t handle that,and she didn’t like to say anything about it to you cuz it could make her feel worse,she has feelings for you and she found it more difficult to tell you that she was leaving face to face.

    Its not that necessary for you to apply NC.but it would be better if you do it.you haven’t been acting that needy but if you did whatever like that,she will forget about it.she will also forget about the bad memories and the pain she was dealing with during that time and she will begin to miss you.

    You can contact her after one month and don’t say anything about getting back together,she doesn’t have to feel any pressure at all. if you find a good job for her,you can tell her indirectly like you can say ,one of my friends told me that there is a good job for someone who can ( what she can do )..,and i thought you could take it if you were here.these are actually the next steps and all of us will be here to help you through your next steps.

    Best of luck

    #1349
    Pointer
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    sevensevens, relax a bit. I know it’s hard. It’s been like 5 or 6 weeks since I was in your position. I felt like I’d maul a bear to death to get back with my ex, but nothing you do right now is logical. It’s all the emotions speaking, man.

    Don’t worry about hurting her. SHE made the choice to walk out of your life. You don’t owe her anything. You don’t have to be her friend, you don’t have to comfort her. It’s best to think of yourself. If you moved down there would it work out? Do you trust her not to leave you again in a month or two? It’s a desperate situation to be in, I know. Everyone on this board knows, but right now the best advice anyone can give you is to just relax and try to get your head straight.

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