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  • #115729
    LeeH
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    Hi everyone. I posted here before and followed the no contact rule a few years ago and she came back. But I need your advice again.
    It’s been tough since, no denying it. We have a lot of history from 7-8 years ago where I hurt her a lot and she can’t shake it, she throws it at we with every disagreement. She goes from one end of the spectrum, calling and messaging me countless times a day to saying her feelings have changed and wants to move on. Last year with lockdown our time together was limited, we had fun when we seen each other but boy did she pick some ridiculous fights. She’s pushed me away, made ridiculous accusations then picked me back up again to the point I backed off completely of of frustration. We stumbled along and had a nice Christmas then wallop, she ended it before New year and I’ve not seen her since, we are currently communicating by email. My health has deteriorated and I’m going through a lot right now so she’s worried about me, she’s admitted she’s struggling about not being there for me but in terms of us being together it seems she’s definitely gone. Said she wants to be on her own but the worst bit is she said there’s just no romantic feelings on her part anymore, there very much was before this happened though.
    Now here’s where I need the advice, I’ve been cool about it all and said how I feel. I’ve not been needy or panicky whatsoever this time and she’s agreed to meet me some time this week but also pointed out that it’ll make no difference (in my mind I’m wondering why even meet me?). What do I even say to her? Do I just be open and make a plan to move forward? Tell her how I feel and hope seeing me in person makes her realise? Play it cool? Valentines day coming up, do I send flowers or not?

    #115731
    patricia12
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    @LeeH My gosh, how much more can you put up with?? The reason she agreed to meet up with you is that she probably feels guilty for treating you so badly. She said she no longer has romantic feelings for you and that’s profound.. To keep your sanity, I advise you get off the roller coaster and move on. But if you go through with the meeting let her do the talking. You don’t need to tell her how you feel as she already knows! NO, do not send flowers for Valentines.

    I’m sorry to say these things, but it’s obvious she won’t change and suddenly want a normal healthy stable relationship with you..

    Stop torturing yourself and move on!

    #115732
    LeeH
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    Thank you for the reply. It’s not that easy to move on though is it? I know I should, no question about it. I’ll see if she has anything to say when we meet and make a decision there. I know she still has feelings for me, this shouldn’t be as difficult as she makes it which is so frustrating!

    #115733
    patricia12
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    @LeeH It’s much easier to move on once you realize you’re not being treated well and there’s very little chance things will change for the better!!

    Keep us posted as to the outcome of the meeting..

    #115734
    LeeH
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    We met last night and it was horrendous. I told her what I want from a relationship and life in general and a way we could resolve all this but she admitted she feels no remorse for the way she’s treated me, she looked me in the eye and said she’ll always love me and care about me but she feels absolutely nothing romantically for me anymore, she feels she’s happier on her own. It was devastating, she’s never done that before. She’s emailed today and asked how I am in terms of my health but as I said to her last night, we need to cut all contact. I can’t be friends and be around when she meets someone else in the future.

    As hard as it is to admit to myself, I need to move on.

    #115735
    patricia12
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    @LeeH A person can “love” another person in a platonic way, but since she doesn’t have anymore romantic love for you, it’s best to move on like you said.. Cutting all ties is also the best way because if you continue to have romantic loving feelings for her, it will hurt a lot more when she doesn’t return those type feelings! I’m sorry this happened, but you will feel better and better as time goes by as long as you don’t obsess about her!

    Take care of yourself and stay safe..

    #115740
    LeeH
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    Just an update for you. Part of the reason why she wants to move on is because of my ex wife, I was with married when we first met, she was too. Nothing happened until after the split but she was besotted with me and I didn’t know, it hurt her a lot and she can’t get over it. This was like 6 years ago.
    I’ve not been feeling too well and my ex wife, the mother of my children, asked if I’d like to walk with them. I’ve not left the house in a week so agreed…you’ve guessed it, she walks past. What followed was a barrage of irate messages saying she felt nothing, she wasn’t bothered and how relieved she feels etc. If she wasn’t bothered and she is over me, why would she get so mad?

    #115741
    patricia12
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    @LeeH Why haven’t you been feeling well?

    Don’t you visit with your children fairly frequently?? Do you live near your ex wife or ex girlfriend and how is it that your ex girlfriend saw you? Maybe she’s upset that you wont let go!!!

    Sounds like you continue to torture yourself with the possibility of reconciliation instead of moving on.. reconciliation doesn’t seem possible and you need to accept that!

    Keep us posted:)

    #115742
    LeeH
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    We all live within a two mile radius but I went to a nearby town with my ex wife and children just to get out of the house, I need a bit of assistance at the moment and we still have a good relationship for the children’s sake. It was literally a one in a million chance of bumping into her on a country road.
    If she genuinely felt nothing when she seen us together then I’m sure a few nice messages would have followed rather than anger, I was visably struggling to walk.
    I’m suffering with nerve damage, face, hands and feet so I can’t walk far, may be more to it though so it’s a worrying time. I know I need to concentrate on myself.

    #115743
    patricia12
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    @LeeH I’m sorry for your nerve damage(what’s the cause?) and the problems you have with it. Hope you will or have had it checked out by a doctor.

    It seems you’re grasping for a more positive reason for the angry reaction your ex had when she saw you. Maybe you think she’s still in love with you or was jealous or something, but the reality is she has moved on from you and doesn’t want a romantic relationship!

    Please stay safe!

    #115746
    LeeH
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    Still not sure of the cause, waiting on a referral to a neurologist.

    So things have moved on, we’ve messaged a little and it’s getting less and less. Nothing to get excited about, any attempt at arranging to meet or talk has been met with a swift no within seconds. I’m coping OK and started the healing and moving on process, even went on a date.
    Something strange happened, I had a missed call from her in the middle of the night so I reached out, she said she never called me as she was fast asleep but it was definitely her number. She knows I have a lot to say about the last few years and she said rather than meet can I put it in an email. So I’ve poured everything out, things she doesn’t know, how I felt, why things happened. I’ve told her where I’m going to be this weekend and it would be great to see her. I know I’m clutching at straws but I haven’t had a no yet, I’m hoping I’ve at least given her something to think about. If she doesn’t show I’ll block her on social media, her phone number etc and not look back, I know I can now.

    #115747
    patricia12
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    @LeeH Exactly what kind of symptoms (face, hands, feet) are you having? I hope you get the referral to a neurologist soon!! Please let us know what the neurologist says after the visit..

    Even though it seems a little pathetic, I’m glad you got everything off your chest through an email. Please let us know if you receive a reply to your email and what she has to say about it. Also please update the situation after the weekend regarding whether she shows up or not..

    Don’t give up on dating. Sooner or later you’re going to meet a sweet normal person:)

    Stay safe!!

    #115748
    LeeH
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    It’s one side of my face, hands, feet and legs mainly. Changed my medication last week so hoping that helps. Mainly burning sensation/pain and numbness. I started wearing glasses in December too just for my left eye, the side of the discomfort.

    Things have changed dramatically. I cut contact since the email and was feeling ok about it, I stopped checking my phone. She messaged yesterday to say she’s not going anywhere this weekend because she’s poorly, I took this as she was going to be there if she was well, also that she hasn’t read the email properly. Last time she was ill she was stuck in the house with no food, none of her family dropped anything off for her. So I left some supplies on her doorstep, I regret this now but I still care. I messaged to tell her they were there and she replied with ‘OK thanks’ and nothing since. I didn’t do the good deed for a reaction or a pat on the back but manners cost nothing. My friends tell me in blinkered when it comes to her, they’re absolutely right.
    I deserve better than this.

    #115749
    patricia12
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    @LeeH Dropping off supplies for her was a kind and thoughtful thing to do:) Don’t feel badly about it.. Hopefully telling you that she’s feeling poorly wasn’t just an excuse for not going out this weekend. And it doesn’t necessarily mean that if she was feeling okay that she would be there! She didn’t say she would if she didn’t feel poorly, but you choose to look at it as a positive response. I think you might be reading too much into whatever she says.. YES, you deserve better!!

    I suggest not contacting her again for any reason. You’ve said and done all you can do!Please update when anything new pops up.. regarding her or your doctor visit. I hope the new medicine helps too:)

    #115751
    LeeH
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    She read the email and it made no difference. The last messages from her said how she doesn’t miss me, doesn’t even think about me and she has absolutely no feelings. I find that hard to believe but she’s made herself clear. Said she’s happier and thriving at work because I’m not a distraction to her and she’s not anxious anymore. She had no reason to be anxious about me, yes I got asked for my phone number on occasion or the odd message on social media but it was never wanted and I was always honest about it so that feels a bit unfair. She clearly has deeper issues which I’ve pointed out. She had all her ex husbands passwords too. She did on occasion ruin a few nights out without her too.
    So that’s that, no contact from now on. I don’t expect to hear from her again.

    Thanks for your help

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