Boards Reconciliation Need Help,Should i keep trying or move on,its been more than yr now.

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  • #53946
    kalicooldude
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    Hi Folks :

    I use to come here a lot after my break up,but I came in again today to get some help.
    Long story short.
    My g/f for 4 years,good relationship it was,but she insisted to get married for 2 years and I could not for some genuine reasons,ie my ex wife and other related issues.

    Well last year she broke up and became distant ignorant and very rude with me,after I blocked her on my cell for 3 weeks.

    I have done everything possible in world to have her back.But no she wont budge.

    My question now is :- If I email her once in while she responds back,i talk to her family she is Ok with it.She meet or call me once in blue moon lets say may be 1 time in 2 months.

    It is been going on from almost a year.Earlier I was door mat but now I am sort of different and made lot of changes in myself but I do still miss her and love her.

    Why she is acting like this from last one year and why don’t she wanted to come back to relationship,even though I have made lot of changes in my personality and behaviour ?

    One thing I want to add up that she just recently starter her facebook last month and all she has is depressing love posts and she likes all posts related to Love quotes.

    For example : don’t trust too much don’t love too much,etc and that too much will hurt you so much.

    Thanks to all in advance.

    #53996
    Wondering412
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    Have you tried mailing a hand written letter?

    #54009
    kalicooldude
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    Hi Wondering :

    This is what I did.

    Break up : June 1st 14
    After I blocked her on cell for 3 weeks after a huge fight.

    Approx after 2.5 weeks I met her and said sorry.

    June 17-Jan 13 (2015)
    Did begging,crying,became door mat,said sorry,cards,choclates,talking to her sister,friends,sent food to her home,gave things to her sister,sent her 7 pages email,offered changing of my religion etc etc.

    No Results produced

    She was :- just cold,reply in one line email,rude,negative,talked about past,anger,and kept telling me to move on its too late now.

    Jan 13 – Started NC.
    Feb 20 she got in touch with email,i replied with one line.
    March 3rd her friend got in touch and she came to meet me in person.

    I was changed but not fully moved on,still had very strong feelings for her.

    She met 4/6 times from March till last month but was again cold,dont want to come back and showed no interest in coming back or start again,even though I made a lot of changes in myself.

    Now I started NC again on August 18th and there is no response or email or phone call or text from her at all and today is sept 27th.

    Not sure what is in her mind but she is very stubborn and she begged me for 2 years to get married and have family,i took some of her things for granted and had lot on my table with my ex-wife.

    But for 4 years my ex g/f gave her 100 % and mine was very less compared to her,even though it should be opposite as my situation from the 1st day I met her was worse.

    I tried very hard as this is my 2nd time because my ex-wife got married after 6 months of our divorce.

    So this time I TRIED TRIED TRIED but produce no results.

    still in same boat,as it was june of last year.

    not sure what to do,will do NC till her bday on Nov 21 and try the last time.

    What you think ? I love her dearly and want her back at any cost.

    #53953
    anthurium
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    Is the main reason you two broke up because you couldn’t commit to her and get married? Even if you have an ex-wife, surely you could divorce her and ask your recent ex to marry you? As a woman that has faced a non committal boyfriend, I speak from experience. If the reason you broke up was lack of commitment, then I think only commitment will win her back – given a year has passed, I think you are beyond NC and games. If you truly want her back, you need to show her you are serious. A friend of mine was in a relationship with someone that has an ex-wife – they nearly broke up because he was dragging his feet on the divorce – she did no contact and he then quickly got on with the divorce – that was the only thing that was going to win her back. If it wasn’t the lack of commitment, then I think we need to understand more about what caused the split.

    #54010
    kalicooldude
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    Not sure if she is seeing someone but her facebook posts are very depressing,and after I started my 2nd nc last month I deactivated my facebook and whats app accounts,but I stalk her sometime with my fake ids.

    #54011
    kalicooldude
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    Yes it was lack of commitment from my end where she was fully committed(100%) but I was not done with my ex wife,divorce,custody batter,civil matter and I had lot on my table.It took me 2 + years to handle everything with my ex wife and the time I was reaching my last settlement me and my ex g/f break up as I was stressed out because of all cases and money it was costing me.

    I have shown her my 100 % commitment now which means I am waiting for her from last 1/5 yrs and I have joined gym,got new car which was her favorite,took anger classes,worked on every aspect which affected my life.

    I have offered her that I would change my religion which if I do my family will boycott me,i am hindu she is muslim.

    I did everything possible to get her trust back but no she wont budge and she was very loving all 4 years,i never imagined that she will change like this.

    #54013
    kalicooldude
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    Hi Wondering :

    I have not tried hand written letter but after 4/5 months of break up,i did sent her 6 pages email,where I wrote about all the memories we shared and where I was wrong and did apology etc etc.

    Had no affects on her.

    She replied to my email even though it was one line email from her,as we only communicated thru email after dec 2014 she strongly told me not to call or text her,if I do than she will block me permanently so I just respected her and only did emails once in may be month or so.

    #54023
    Wondering412
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    It sounds like you are still very much in love with her.

    I know how it feels.
    Been almost 3 months for me and I’m still in love too. She just made my world so much better.

    Anyways, I say mail a letter. To her place.

    If she responds great, if not then maybe you really should move on. It pains me to say that but after 3 months, I’m exhausted trying. I can only imagine how you feel after a year.

    By now. She should definitely have erased any negative feelings associated with your break up, but unfortunately it sounds like she may have found another relationship in that time.

    Best,
    Wondering

    #54027
    kalicooldude
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    Yes I dearly love her and I generally don’t give up so easy,but now I am exhausted after 1/5 years and pretty much giving up,I haven’t wrote her any email from approx. last 40 days or so nor she did any at all.

    But everytime i emailed her,she replied back on one word or line email and met me 3/4 times in 5/6 months.Not sure if she replied as she was scared of me or didn’t want to upset me.

    I didn’t know that if she has another relationship but now she seems to be in good shape and happy,she don’t miss me anymore.

    Even though she has relationship, she is kinda girl who will keep it very confidential,so I have no way to find out on this.

    Thanks wondering for your thoughts,life changes as do people.

    #54036
    anthurium
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    Hi kalicooldude,
    I wrote my comment above before your longer message as it took a while for my first comments to be moderated. So I see now that you are now divorced. I’m going to be honest because I want to help you – I think some of your earlier actions may have come across as needy. But you probably realise that now. I think offering to give up your religion and family when you are not actually in the relationship comes across as “I’d do anything for you” which feels a bit desperate (sorry). But that was mostly last year so that’s the good thing. And she did agree to meet up with you sometimes (I’m not sure if that was last year or this year – as you say its been only email since Dec 14 and things seem to have gone colder).
    You’ve had NC now for 40 days. My view would be to go a bit longer – hopefully she will start to wonder if you have really moved on. BUT!!!! I still think the only way you will win her back is by showing her you are ready commitment. Its why she left. It doesn’t sound like she left because you weren’t going to the gym or because of religion. She wanted marriage and children with you – but you weren’t looking serious about these things when you were together – and I am not sure if in all your efforts since the break up if you have offered marriage and children to her?
    So my view – wait a bit more, try to calm down and enjoy life as much as you can so that you are as positive about your own life as you can be, then reach out to her, see if she will meet up. During that meet up – I would say to her that you are ready for marriage and children now. But not in a needy “I will do anything for you” way – just in a very honest and calm way. And you don’t even need to infer that you are ready for these things with her – just that you are ready, now the divorce is over, this is what you want and you are feeling really positive about finding it. It will prick her ears up believe me. Especially if you are in your 30s? she is probably not very happy that she spent so long asking for this and “wasted” valuable time – sorry its how women think. So to come back to you, she would need to see you are in this place – and its not just you saying things to win her back (that’s why I think saying it as a general statement of where you are at in your life is better than directly offering her marriage or children). Its my view as a woman. Though you know her and your situation of course better and you can only do what you feel comfortable with. I wish you well and that she sees sense 🙂

    #54037
    anthurium
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    One more thing – if she won’t meet up – then your last option is the letter. And, in that letter its important not to come across as needy, but I do think somehow it would be good to say that you are ready for marriage and children, now the divorce is long in the past. (But only if you are ready for these things with her of course!). Good luck

    #54048
    Anna
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    You’ve hurt your lady so much and for so long time that it seems impossible for her to forget and overcome the betrayal.
    No contact won’t solve the problem. She needs assurance and help to believe in love again. She’s saying that in her Facebook posts.
    What to do? Start fresh. No excuses, no explanations, no promises. Just be there for her for the simple things in life. You know what she likes, surprise her. Let her know (with a big smile) how HAPPY you are just for the fact that you know her as a person first of all, then as a friend and hopefully later as a girlfriend and who knows one day as a wife. Show interest in her daily life and get involved in solving any problems she might have. No drama, no past, no mentioning about your ex wife. She wanted you desperately. If she hasn’t moved on, everything is in your hands. I think that you men don’t realise how powerful you are.
    You have hurt her, it’s up to you to make her HAPPY again, only if you want it of course.

    #54055
    kalicooldude
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    Hi Anthurium & Elanna :
    First I really want to thank you from bottom of my heart,that you spent so much time in writing about your thoughts,you both are really genuine people and I cant express my words.

    – Yes I have hurted her,when she begged me everyday to get married,but at same time with my ex divorce was not finalized and there was lot of issues pending,esp my dear daughter who was just 1 year old.

    – I took my g/f granted and also thought that she will not go anywhere,anytime we had fight she came back and did apology.

    – My problems/issues took way longer than expected and everytime I had new issue,which was not created by me but my ex wife who is very financially strong and stubborn,and rich husband.

    After my g/f broke up I did showed very needy,desperation and lost all my self confidence and I begged,cried,said sorry,gave flowers,talked with her sister,mother and friends.

    My life was shaken and I did all this because of my ex-wife who moved on got married in 6 months,also so this time it was just very painful as this was 2nd time and I got dreams of my g/f moving on and getting married.

    So everyday I woke up and tried,tried,tried.

    Now I am not doing anything till her bday on 21st Nov and will try to email her first and than try to meet her in person and take expensive gift(12bangles she always wanted to get)costs around $ 15K.

    And this time YES I told her I am ready to get married and have kids,family with you.But she just still very cold and stubborn of not coming back.

    Actualy I had lost the battle last year only but she did replying to my email or meet once in blue moon because I did put very serious efforts to have her back but I guess my needy,desperate approach was not the right one.

    Now I don’t talk to anyone related to her till her bday.I am out from facebook & WhatsApp.

    Her facebook also had missed signals one week she puts desperate love quotes and other she week she puts a nice picture with her g/f,she knows in her heart that I really love her but now she don’t trust me and same time I guess lost attraction as of my past needy desperate mistakes.

    What you think ?

    Thanks again,god bless you and hope you get your loved ones back.

    #54056
    kalicooldude
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    Hi Elanna :

    Yes this is true that she have lost the trust in love or loving me again.She don’t want me to interfare in her regular life,only way I communicated with her was thru emails from last dec 2014.She never text or phone me at all.

    And what else can I do in emails,i sent her funny jokes and was fun person in email,checkked how she is doing and if she has any problems but no results and when she met me 3/4 times in person (last 6 months) we met more like strangers and she was very distant while meeting me and even didn’t want to hug me.

    Yes, she was very serious and desperately wanted to get married and she use to talk about it every day and on every occasion that she wants to settle and have family but I had lot on my table and also I didn’t realise till the time I lost her,i had genuine reasons as my divorce with ex wife was taking way tooooo long…and I was emotionaly,finanicaly,mentaly very tired too.

    SHE IS ALSO AWARE THAT I AM WORKING VERY HARD TO IMPROVE MYSELF AND BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY EVEN THOUGH I AM VERY IMPATIENT GUY.

    Plan is to meet her bday on Nov 21st now,no communication till than.Last was aug 18th thru email.

    Lets see and you are right my divorce,religion,my status,my daughter was not a problem for her at all.

    #54085
    Anna
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    I can talk only from my point of view since the women are not all the same.
    If I loved a man who did hurt me somehow and then I decided that there is no point of being with him, I would ‘run’ and try to forget him. Here I need to explain that there is a huge difference to how I would do it in different situations. I say that because I have gone through this unfortunately several times and when I look back it has always been different.
    In your case, I think there is still a chance and as I already wrote, it all depends on you.
    I had a very similar relationship to yours however it wasn’t me who was insisting on a marriage, but my parents. I left the guy, I was very young and got tired of being told that if he doesn’t want to marry me so he doesn’t love me. When I broke up with him, he suddenly proposed but I said no, since it looked like he was forced to do it. When I said ‘no’ however I didn’t mean that I wouldn’t change my mind if he’d made ENOUGH effort to convince me. I also told him that I was going to marry a man who has been chasing me for years. My boyfriend didn’t do much to stop me. And I don’t regret that I broke up 3 years of relationship, because he really didn’t deserve my love.

    What she feels now I think is very similar to what I did at the time. She is upset, she feels betrayed, she doesn’t believe in love, she needs to be convinced. As you said she doesn’t trust you, because like in my case, you changed your mind after she broke up with you. She is simply sad about it. If she tells you ‘yes’ then she would always feel like she has forced you.
    That’s why I told you to start fresh. No mentioning about marriage. I don’t know how you would do it. I personally think that emails are not enough. She needs to see you face to face.
    Also I don’t understand why people think that if they don’t contact their ex for months, their ex will wait for them forever? Maybe, but not me.
    That’s why I think is important for men to show their feelings. I know that we live in modern century, but come on, it has been for more centuries the fact that the men are the hunters.

    No, she has not lost attraction because you have shown needy. Don’t be afraid to talk to her. She seems now punishing you, but you see, you have deserved it.
    Show her that you have not given up on her and don’t let her go, she needs to know exactly how much you are prepared to do for her. She needs to know how deeply you want her so she would be able to overcome the past and the shame that she was the one asking you for commitment.
    You need to accept that you are being just punished, believe me, it’s not rejection, it is a revenge.

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