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    Malinda
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    I have gone through quite numbers of NC in this past 10 months or so, it will be 3 years on and off in a few days and we were not on the same page since the beginning and he was never able to commit fully and I have accepted the truth we were not meant to be together so forced myself to move on but each time he came back with only words and the last time a month ago I made the same mistake and gave in without seeing any certain action but just for his fancy flowery words, it was all the same even worse so I cut the talking 20 days ago he sent two casual texts as if everythings ok but he knows deep down its not I’m sure anyway I didn’t answer and a week later he sent me the last long text saying; malinda honey i hope you’re doing good and putting your life in order, i sent you an email and I’m guessing the video will make you smile remember me that way cuz i love to make you smile. Malinda i never deserved your love, you’re a perfect person and I’m so imperfect and I’m not going to say sorry but thank you for having a hope in a such so imperfect person like me. I will never be able to forget your soul.” and never heard of him after, it sounded like an acceptance to me like he accepts that he didn’t love me or care about me as much as I did and he doesn’t have the courage to take responsibility of a relationship and hes at a very good level of his career and surrounded by all the attention and wants to adventure life and the opportunities. And me I have been looking for a job for months now, had quite number of interviews but nothing and financially so down. I don’t know where to start really and even though he said farewell for good and i do know and aware of everything still have hope deep down. He just gave up that easy and having his beautiful life, it just so saddens me knowing he didn’t love me for real and I made my own self to believe in the opposite. Sigh.
    I’m just letting it out here cuz I’m trying to accept and take it as we’re not meant to be together or he didn’t really love me for real.

    #57326
    anthurium
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    Malinda, I’m so sorry to read that you are going through this. From what you say, I do think he loved you. It sounds like he is a commitment phobe. Its a similar situation to my ex over the past few years. (Though our current split is not due to him being a commitment phobe – possibly its driven out of the insecurities i had because he was a commitment phobe, see below). I don’t know the correct advice I am afraid as it would seem he does love you and would give it another go. But if he is a commitment phobe, how do you prevent another break up again and how do you prevent the insecurities or resentment creeping in on your side. Each time he hurts you, I think it eats away at the trust and love (even if subconsciously). I think the only answer is if they truly believe they have lost you through a very long period of NC (several months at least) or through you meeting someone else. And that they commit before it has built up any resentment in you. I think often a commitment phobe will only realise he is prepared to commit when it is too late – and its sadly their loss as much as their partners’.
    In case its useful, what happened in my scenario is this – we were together on and off for just over 3 years. During that time we had a couple of break ups – mainly because he was a commitment phobe – no relationship problems at all. The last break up, he won me back by making a full commitment to me – living together, agreeing to have children. So we got back together but none of these things seemed to materialise in the following few months. So I would get stressie with him and say it must all come through or its over. So he would do them (we moved in together) – but it was all so reluctant. So I ended up resenting him and we found ourselves in a vicious circle of negativity. We mutually split in March / April. He moved out. I regretted acting so miserably the past year and asked him if we could sort it out. He said no. I went no contact for several months. Then he reconnected about the admin of our apartment. I tried to be friends with him to rebuild the trust – seemed pointless as he just wants to talk about admin. He isnt really interested in even having a lunch or dinner together. Now I have given up. At long last. I know that he did love me – it took him a long time but he was genuinely in love with me. And I with him. But now he feels hurt by my behaviour during the last year and that’s why he wont consider coming back. So that’s why its important for you – that it doesn’t go on so long that your resentment builds.
    Sorry if that was a bit of a ramble, I hope it helps. Good luck with the path you choose.

    #57329
    anthurium
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    Malinda, another poster put this article on his comment. Its worth you reading in case you see any resemblance. It made me think….

    Relationship Stages with a Narcissist or Borderline and Triangulation

    #57337
    Malinda
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    @anthurium thank you very much for trying to help and sharing yours. I’ve even read about narcissists before as well as many other things that his behaviours lead me to research and read things cuz it affected my life, turned it upside down literally, and sucked my all energy for life little by little and I did let it happen each time. I’ve realized long time ago and accepted nothing is going to happen out of this but just time waste and he tricked me each time and made me forget what i was aware of and turned it to other way once i had the full confidence to move on, he did it just with his words no any single action. Last time I have not answered to any of his texts emails for 3 weeks and he finally managed me to talk to him again, there is one important point that i have given him an ultimatum about marriage a year ago, it was in fact like this i told him that i understand he is not ready for it or whatever his reason is and i respect it then i asked him to respect my decision too that my intention is sharing my life with him and we needed to separate as we are not on the same page but he just didn’t let go and during each no contact i have done he came closer to the idea of getting married but only with tricky words just to get me talk to him, anyway i got really bored of this game and brought me to the point of saying to myself whatever its I’m just fed up with this crap, you just go move on with your life and leave me alone as i want old me so bad and my life before him. Sigh anyway I’m like this its either black or white no grey cuz it kills me slowly and i hate it, whenever i felt the full confidence he appeared and made it the opposite, and this time he made me feel miserable again and gone now i just can’t pull it up to move on, stucked.

    #57338
    Malinda
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    You know there happens one little thing out of blue that thing a help or whatever you call it just pulls you up for the new start or next phase, its just not happening for me anymore. I used to have those blessings before but not for a long time now, or who knows maybe its happening but I’m not able to see them.

    #57339
    anthurium
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    I am sure you will pick yourself up again soon – soon it will be a new year and a fresh start for you. You are not alone in what has happened here and you do deserve more than this man gave to you. At least you have had the strength to see his words for what they are now – you have been very strong the past few weeks and very smart to understand what has happened. Take heart that he did love you – I think these kind of people do fall in love – they are just really quite insecure – always needing their partner to chase them, not trusting in love enough to give themselves to the relationship. Warm wishes to you

    #57342
    Malinda
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    I hope so, thank you. Maybe he did in his own way but so far from enough and actually I’m not that strong I’m very weak person, i know what I should do but just don’t have the strength to do. And yes to the insecurity hes very insecure person. Even though i know i have to do it the hard way about moving on and getting my life in order, still hoping for a sign little light a door to carry me to the next phase with passing the difficult one cuz i don’t have enough strength. Wish you the same and appreciate it.

    #59275
    Malinda
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    Its been over two months since I started NC,he just sent two texts and an email which was only a link to show me somethings and that was it. I’m not able to get over, somedays I feel like its been years I miss terribly and somedays I do hate him calling him bad names. It seems like I will have to get used to living like this as hes on my mind all the time, he never really truly cared and loved me. I didn’t answer any of his texts or email cuz they were sent out of curiosity or from boredom just like that you would know and feel if there’s love, sigh..I actually admire him cuz hes smart and living his life in order and not letting anybody ruin that, going on with his mind logic not letting emotions control him, selfish. Over 2 months and silly me still keep checking his fb I feel so dumb and stupid.

    #59279
    Malinda
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    Kevin,

    Do you have any advice for acceptance, accepting what its and moving on ?

    #59306
    Finntoga
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    Hi Malinda,

    Sorry for not being in touch but frankly I have been super busy at work and have not really been on this site. The biggest problem I see here is that in your heart of hearts you still have not really accepted the fact that he is not ready nor willing to marry you right now. I told you while back that you cannot force anyone to commit if they are not ready it does not mean they do not love you they simply do not see life and choices same way as you do and don’t want those things at this stage of their life.Sometimes it is just about bad timing between two people. You gave him ultimatum and the fact that he did not bend to it you chose to see as sign he does not love you enough but I keep telling you love is accepting the other person as they are faults and all even when they don’t do what you want. If what they have to offer is not enough for you then you need to step away from that person because the point is not to be miserable when you are with the person you love. The problem here is you still concentrate solely on him and him not being in your life and the fact that he is so successfull and he did not love you. When the case was he does but not in the way you want i.e the marriage etc.That is what you need to accept first and also work on you make you feel confident in your abilites and who you are. Marriage cannot be a validation of someones love for you, the fact that he kept trying to contact you for so long despite nc and all shows he does he just cannot give you the commintment you want.Also just because he has good job it does not make him better person than you are or superior to you. So he has money, he has good job but think of the things he is lacking in his personality or now that he does not have you? He is not the person who defines your value. You are. So stop looking at his FB or any other social media things. What he does is irrelevant as long as he chooses not to fully commit to you. What is relevant is what you do and how you feel. It is okay to miss him and have sad moments but you are wallowing now and maybe you need to talk to someone because it is beginning to sound bit like depression? Just a suggestion and I could be wrong. But to be honest your life is not ruined,your heart was broken and it takes time to heal but you gotta want to heal for you. Not for him. Life is not over, you are still young and life is full of opportunities but they wont come to your door to knock you have to go after them so instead of spending all the time thinking of him start looking for ways to fill your days with positive things that mean you think everyday five minutes less of him.Start figuring out what you want from life (besides him and figuring ways to work towards those goals) and you know what you will start healing slowly and little by little but you gotta to try, stop saying you are weak since you are not you just need little support and help and belief in yourself and you can do it. Think about this. There is no magic trick for moving on it comes from when you start loving yourself and be happy in yourself and that takes work. Work on that and you will feel better. I speak from personal experience there.

    #59325
    Malinda
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    Hello @Finntoga

    Thank you for your comments, you’re very right he is not the person who defines my value. I can’t help not looking at his fb and right now I feel this urge to go and check his fb and all stuffs related but I didn’t look any of it for two days now, I’m fighting with myself not to..
    And one thing is I’m sure of, if he really loved me and thought I was the one then he would do such sacrifices to keep me, he just simply gave up and it was not hard for him at all as I could see from here and there..

    I hope everything is well with you.

    #59334
    Ras217
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    Hi Malinda – I’m going through a similar situation. I was in a 1 year relationship with this man and last week was breakup #3. I fell hard for him and it seemed it was the same for him. Our connection and chemistry was out of this world.

    I will preface by saying my ex owns his own businesses (3 of them). He is 100% driven and motivated to make sure these businesses are successful. I will also note that he was engaged once and broke it off a month before the wedding because “it didn’t feel right”. Then his last long term GF he also broke up with her twice. So definitely patterns of commitment phobe and also very reactive.

    After 1 month, he said he wanted exclusivity. Things were great. He had to travel for work a few months later. When he got back, 3 months into the relationship, cause he felt he needed to be single and “follow his gut”. He broke up with me over the phone and I wanted a face to face convo. We met up a week later and the second we saw each other we knew breaking up wasn’t the answer. He told me he acted in haste and freaked out about being in a relationship. Before he met me he was in his bachelor mode and hooking up with chics. I think he didn’t expect to meet a woman like me. Caring, understanding, cool, and pretty.

    We dated a few more months, he brought me to his best friend’s wedding where I met all his close friends and family. That weekend he told me he loved me. It was seriously magical. A weekend to remember and it was then where I thought… okay this is it. I met my guy.

    A few more months pass and I can feel the distance again. He was extremely stressed with work, traveled a lot in July/August for 2-3 weeks at a time. Came back and I could tell his mind was 100% focused on business. Then he hit a breaking point and lost a huge section of business. There was 3-4 days where he straight up ignored me. We talked and he said he’s not sure he should be in a relationship right now. He didn’t end things quite yet, but then a week later ended it because he said he wanted to “start from square one”. Which for him meant be single, go out and meet women…. just like he did before when his business was booming. He thought if he started from square one that he would be successful again. I was heart broken all over again.

    This time I didn’t reach out for a convo. However a week later I had to put my dog down of 9 years. Long story short he saw a Facebook post and immediately called me. We ended up seeing each other and he told me how much he missed me. Said he was wrong about needing to start from square one. He told me he associated being hungry for business with attacking the opposite sex. But he realized he didn’t need to do that anymore. Cause he had me, someone who he values and who supports him. He said everything I needed him to say without me having to tell him. I took him back again.

    We had a few great months then again… Noticed the distance and change of energy. He told me work was about to get very busy. And he was right. Would spend most of the weekdays staying home when before that we’d see each other almost every day. I felt neglected but also wanted to support him. When we did see each other I definitely felt some distance but tried not to get paranoid like I did in the past.

    I also noticed he started saying/doing things to try and get a reaction out of me. Almost like he was pushing me away on purpose. It hurts now to think that’s what he was doing…

    So last week, he tells me he wants to take me to get my bday present. Then afterwards we come back to my apt and he gets so quiet. Finally I ask him what the deal is and he says he doesn’t see himself in a long term relationship. I completely lost it. I was so calm all the other times but not this time. I felt played. Foolish. Told him the last year was a waste of my time. I was completely broken down by him and his back and forth decisions.

    Now I’m here… 1 year later, completely devastated. Confused. Sad. Angry. And missing him and the good times. He texted me a few days ago, happy birthday, but I deleted it without reading it. Then the next day he removed our pictures from his timeline.

    Now I’m not sure where to go from here. Or what to think. Can’t but think it’s something I did. Or didn’t do.

    A friend already saw him on a dating app. Which he will use strictly for hookups. That hurts too cause he said when business is crazy he doesn’t feel sexual. What a joke.

    Now what……?

    #59337
    Malinda
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    Hello Ras217,

    It looks like hes taking you for granted as he knows that you will take him back without realizing how he really does feel for you. And you not replying to his birthday text, he might have hurt or took it as a matter of pride since it sounded as if he thinks like hes getting whoever he wants to, so that’s why maybe he took your pics off of his fb page.
    Try hard to be patient and let him realise how he does feel for you and don’t give in easily till you feel that you see that real action from him, be firm and let him do what he should be doing for you and both instead of this back and forth thing that he doesn’t know what he wants.
    Don’t do or say things out of anger just be patient and see where it goes.

    #59338
    Malinda
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    It does really suck when you care for someone and you even realise and know his mistakes but still giving them chances, it’s not that they are smart or we are stupids its cuz you do care and try to make them see what it really is, but if they are not able to see it after sometime they take advantage of you if you don’t talk in their language you know so just try hard to stick with your decisions firmly whatever you feel is right for yourself

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