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    amcee
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    Hi Kev,

    firstly thanks for being available to reply to similar posts and helping ppl like me to read and get a better perspective. This one is slightly long, please bear with me πŸ™‚
    Background:
    Me and ex age 30yr (started dating early 2013), childhood family friends (best friends let me mention. Would always find ways to stick around each other be it playing, hanging out, chatting, fighting, etc), different religion though, have dated multiple ppl before eventually started dating each other in 2013. Strted as long distance and was difficult to maintain since she was cheated in her past relations and even though she knew me better it was still difficult to have a stable trusting foundation. We used to talk for hours (atleast 3-4 hrs everyday ALL THIS TIME) and sometimes we fought on regular couple stuff (jealousy, not giving time, not replying after reading a msg etc) and used to make up right aftr.

    I made it a point to fly down to my home country every 6 months to make sure she doesnt feel lonely. During one of the visit i had hinted my family of the fact that am gng to introduce them to someone. They figured this i guess and started acting weird from day 1 and it made things worse for me cos she couldnt trust my family either after that and was very depressed. I had to go back after 3 weeks and well couldnt accomplish what i thought i would (This was June 2013). Again i managed to make her calm down and lot of intensity in our talks, we could literally talk a 100 topics in 30 minutes, be stupid, do adult chat n then kiddish talks all the same time. I lost my job around this time and she was supportive of me during that period. I started a business soon after and she quit her job in the home country to help me out. My business required me to network with lot of doctors and their assistants (females mostly) which again made her jealous and it would again cause fights where i would tell its over then she would cry a lot and beg for forgiveness and i used to be hurt again n again by the lack of trust that i would disconnect for 2-3 days (not a good way may be) n then again get back. This took a toll on my business cos most of my time went in trying to not make her cry. I could understand her emotions but very lil i could do from such a long distance. Jan 2014 i make one more trip, she planned a 2 day surprise for me and was overjoyed.. we get physical the first time the same night i have to leave. Again the long distance thing started and this time i was looking for a new job, stress levels high due to business also needing attention and my love life too.

    I used to always warn her about certain guys cos i knew their intentions and she wouldnt believe me but after some time would find out i was totally right about them (i do manage to gauge ppl’s intentions intuitively) and this would make her feel as if she is not intelligent enough. She is smart as a fox but she was very underconfident in this period i didnt help her case much by showing her how she was slacking in the business too. A guy (unknown) once contacted her online under the pretence of career help and i warned her he has not so gud intentions. She didnt reply him after that. We still fight, make up, love each other more after every argument, make more memories, plan future, etc. End of 2014 she says she is feeling suffocated and is done with me (after a series of small arguments where i dun talk for a couple of days) and her health goes down and I decide to leave my job and business and come back for good in Feb 2015. I had sensed something was terribly wrong cos she kept telling me to forget her and move on and how i treated her, how she doesnt live up to my expectations etc. On my arrival she made me meet a guy and i sensed immediately this is the same online guy and i left the meeting place and she cried like crazy and called me, met me with this fellow, told me she made a mistake, etc. (the guy was a drunk, verbally abusive, good with sweet comforting words which made her feel good about herself)

    We managed to weather that storm, i accepted it was a mistake which both of us were responsible for and should try and forget. Few months later i found out she was in touch with the guy even after i had warned what his intentions were and she told me she isnt in touch. This didnt go down well with me and for the first time ever i yelled at her and called her mean words. She broke down bad and it took me a long time to again make her understand that this revelation hurt me more than anything as it breached my trust while she was having trust issues all this time. Both of us loved each other way too much to let go and eventually got back together. This time the issue was her parents were tired of seeing her cry so often and thought am ruining their daughters life. The mother always wanted a guy from the same religion.

    Cut to last few months, I had started 2 new businesses, one involved a new product which is yet to be launched and another which is yet to make good profits (both started with her), had arguments in work, personal level both were gng very good, physical intimacy level was unheard of (not to boast but rarely did she not have an orgasm), made my family to accept her and she started coming to my house everyday where we would work and fool around. The issue? In work am a hard taskmaster and she felt i was not respecting her enough but the fact was i gave her responsibilities more than others to show her how much i value her talent and hardwork (also mentioned verbally a few times) but the rude words made her feel underconfident. Later she get a well paying job, which she takes, i show resentment cos she blew off the work commitments on two ventures and left me alone to work on them. A bitter email exchange ensued regarding share control etc (which initially i had given all to her to get her confidence back). She cried, her parents made her believe am a wrong partner for her, a selfish, rude, pull her down, etc

    This time i had warned her before starting the job that a small argument and our relationship will be tested badly cos we wont get time to meet (her job, my busness, family gatherings, etc) and her parents will take that chance.. she said that wun happen…

    I never disturbed her even for a day after she started her job. Our last email exchange was the fight before the job started and i had told her am supporting her decision to do the job but wun be interested in knowing how it is since i need to get my head back in the two ventures. She got upset, cried one day, broke down, her parents made her believe am evil and gave her an ultimatum to choose me and leave the house or now get a guy of their choice and not give them heartache (this has been a constant drama since 2 yrs now). She loves her dad and he got tired of seeing her cry and thus told her he wun see me ever even if she chooses to go with me.

    Present situation:
    – She messaged me one day she is moving on
    – We meet the next day, she cries and says its a practical decision
    – Meets guys next day
    – One guy the parents like and approve
    – She kept calling me everyday and kept telling its time to move on, let go, blamed me for my rude words, said i was perfect in every other way but my rude words (which i was not able to understand cos the last time was the email after which we were gng good, she also offered me from her paycheck to move out of my parents house just a week before telling me she is moving on). We were still intimate a week before the move on message
    – Her parents come over and ask me to not bother her anymore as she wants to move on and has forgotten me.
    – i told them she calls me and it doesnt look so. After making her dad understand the relation and the emotions involved he said do not communicated for 30 days and then he will see if both still have feelings for each other.
    – I start my no contact period but realize that i cannot trust them so communicate with my ex and tell her about the condn placed by them when she is shocked cos they told her that i basically blamed her a lot when they came to meet me. Due to this she got pissed and told them to go ahead with the guy they like and they told the guys family that engagement can happen in december (this female has already gone through one engagement break up earlier before being with me)
    – She is scared to harm her familys reputation and multiple times mentioned that her dad hates me, she will bear the consequences of this decision, blocked me on several platforms (though she still does some of the business work & i get notifications for same)
    – The guy is quite opposite of me, he drinks, says used to smoke, himself had a recent break up, knows about me and her and how much impact i have had on her, still doesnt give her breathing space. She didnt tell me about the guy, i found out some and rest was gut feeling which turned out to be true when i asked her.
    – she says the guy is good cos he listens to her and makes her feel good (again same pattern as of the online guy). She tells the guy yes then says she cannot trust him and same day the guy proposes her. She is taken by surprise and says thank you but this guy wastes no time to post the pictures online the next moment (got to knw from others since am blocked already)
    – She is stuck in her own words and feels this is the right decision to go ahead with since he is same religion, family approves, cousins like him, stable job, similar field of work (Am opposite in several ways than him)
    – She is crying everyday at home (she told me) and tells her parents cant get me out of her head, posting pics of him n her on social media, am blocked so get to know from friends (i dont ask them to show)

    Am starting the NC period but am not sure if this is a case of rebound for her (his intentions my gut doesnt like). I have ended things on a very positive note and never made her feel am out there to hurt her or the relation though her parents did try to portray that.

    Any word of advice, what you feel about this? Rebound? Calculated risk? She isnt thinking anymore about herself? She has moved on?
    I know her since 25 years and i know for a fact that both will always love each other but is there a possibility to be “in love” again?
    I have already started yoga, gym, diving into work, lost weight (she saw me a few days back “by accident” and was drooling over how i look and we spent an hour together talking, she crying, hugging each other in public and walking and not liking when i talk about meeting girls).

    Apologies for the long tirade, but am scared of losing a person with whom I have already shared almost 40% of my life with that too the youngest age (assuming my avg lifespan is 70yrs)

    #70672
    Jenna129x
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    Hi. After so much has happened, you really have to let this go for a little while. You cannot contact her at all because I think this guy is a rebound. When they are done, she is going to want you back. However, it might take them 4 months, it might take them 7 months. Are you willing to wait? Maybe, maybe not. Hopefully for you, it is only a few months before she realizes that she loves you and you loved her truly.

    It makes it harder since her family has such a strong influence on her. She has people who are frequently telling her to stay away from you. She doesn’t want to disappoint them.

    The best thing you could have done was end on a happy note.

    I wish you the best and I hope time brings you both back together.

    #70702
    amcee
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    Thanks @Jenna129x for replying πŸ™‚
    I never made it sour or spiteful for her to leave this relation. She is my childhood friend first!!
    My love for her is way too much to bother her with any of her decisions.

    As a matter of fact after my 8 days of NC she contacted me and was crying, wanted to meet and confessed she still loves me n has put herself in a mess by agreeing for this guy and she has no feelings for him. I told her I’ll have to block her to help her move on and she begged not to else it’ll kill her.

    She called up yesterday night too (she stays back late in office cos she wants to avoid meetings with the guy and work gives her peace now) just to say good night. The tone was VERY sweet for some reason (could be just an emotional imbalance in her state) and again in morning later today when she started crying while talking (said she posts on fb for me, still reads my old sweet messages i had sent in insta and deleting my old email where we fought, etc).

    I know it has hit her now what step she has taken and what it could lead too but am not sure if she has the courage to step out of it. Her engagement is scheduled in a little over 2 weeks. I do not wish to be the cause of another engagement broken for her.

    Hope she comes back to me on time but am trying to keep least possible hopes πŸ™‚

    #70780
    Anne
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    hey @amcee !! thank you so much for reading my thread!! well you are right!! i have thought so much about what if he go with his parents in future?
    but for a recent update, its over from my side!! i comoleted my NC successfully and he contacted me positively but his family issue was there and he couldnt make his mind so i walked out after ending thungs positively!
    i read your story. this girl loves you. trust me she does. or why she would cry for you? she isnt happy i guess with this new boy! you should change your ways of talking if you are rude. you cant notice that but ither person does! so be a good loving person! also is she going to enagage with him really? you should not contact her for a while and make contact once you are ready with your new version!! it will work!!
    just focus om what was wrong!
    and you are a boy so it wont be that much difficult to make her family understand afterall!! but you really need to change the ways, positively inside out!! people hould notice the difference!! gud luck

    #70790
    amcee
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    Hi @Anne02, thank you for going through my post πŸ™‚
    You’re right about everything. In fact just recently we met up and she discussed how to get this guy out of the picture without her losing any reputation in her social circle (she has had one broken engagement earlier cos the guy cheated on her but our society is kinda orthodox so she is shit scared). She also agreed that even though my words were and they angered her but she shouldnt have taken such a big step. She is regretting it now, we met the other night, spent some quality time, some good discussions too but am not keeping my hopes high as of now. She has to muster a LOT of courage to say no to this guy, go against so many people to be with me. She cannot bear the thought of not having me in her life (am also same) but lets see what the future holds for us πŸ™‚

    About your case, am sorry to that the guy is not able to take a stand. He should realize that parents are going to be there for some time with him (not hinting at death but instead how one spends more time with a partner only) and it is VERY IMP that you choose the one you love and not whom your parents love. He might be thinking he is sacrificing but in reality he is just not manning up.

    #70812
    Anne
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    Hey @amcee !! You are right!! I have tried so hard to make him understand about everything that you have to choose the person who will be with you no matter what!!
    Yea he is sorta thinking that he will sacrifice anything for family but he has started realising things now, like he called me up and every time I asked him about if he is happy with this he was depressed!! And always said he misses me so much and cry too!! But nothing can be done until he stands up!! I tried everything I could in last 1year!! But now im exhausted. Idk what will happen next but not expecting anything now.
    Well you said in your thread that the boy has drinking issues? You can take advantage of that. I mean try to show her parents that he isn’t the right person and at the same time you show up somehow but in much better ways than before!! Well behaved, caring about your girl. I know you do, but you need to let her and her parents see that caring. It’s gonna be tough but not impossible! ?

    #70813
    amcee
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    Hi @Anne02, you’re right, now there is no point in you trying to show him that you’re waiting for him. Am not going to comment on how much you love him cos am pretty sure you do a lot πŸ™‚

    I can understand that some times there is pressure of a different kind and people are forced to take decisions. I dont want to be harsh on him either but he is not helping either you, himself or the girl he is going to marry by communicating with you his feelings. I can only hope & pray he finds the courage to take a stand for the two of you for life and not just cos he misses you in his life.

    In my case, the guy doesnt have a drinking problem but he does like drinking. She doesnt like that habit but then again am no one to decide if she wants to change that habit. We have been in touch and she has expressed the desire to get back but is very scared to break this relation cos of family pressure, society (yes we belong to a regressive society in this situation), how friends will perceive her constant shifts in decisions, etc which will bring her confidence down too.

    My situation is worse than it sounds cos even if she does end up coming back to me, we just cannot go out and declare our love for each other cos then people will comment on her character which neither of us would like. Moreover she is lot of scared of the society (cos of previous history too) which i totally understand.

    Currently, both are talking to each other secretly, meeting too, sharing food, talking future if she decides to come back etc. but am still not raising my hopes here. She is in a very unstable state and her family should be helping her get out of this but they are instead encouraging the guy, inviting him to their house for dinners etc. They are making it more difficult for her to find a way out too. Father supports her but the mother just wont let go of the guy (same religion what she always wanted). It hurts but in the end the hurt goes away when I think if she’ll be happy then its all okay. I can live with it πŸ™‚

    My love for her was not conditional upon she promising to live with me only. We have a heart, we love a lot of people but we love the most ONLY ONE person. Am grateful I could find that one person early in my life and could receive so many good memories!!! I couldnt have imagined getting this much happiness otherwise πŸ™‚ So am content!

    Her parents dont want me to contact them or her. I dont even wish to cause anyone more trouble. I know that family since I was 5yrs and I respect her dad a lot. I dont wish to be the cause of his headache!

    #70836
    Anne
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    Okay!! I understand what you want to say. You are probably right. Don’t hope much, be there for her!! Be strong. And wait patiently. Tomorrow can unfold many secrets!!
    wish you all the luck!! You are a strong person. ?

    #72173
    h0p3
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    @amcee wow, I just read through your story. that’s a lot of ups and downs. and i guess the religious / family situation does make it hard. since my family is not much religious and very open minded, i never knew such an impact.

    i hope you stay strong. and that the both of you may find a way for each other. as lovers, as friends… who knows what time will bring, right? Are you still in contact?

    #74666
    amcee
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    @h0p3, @Anne02, @Jenna129x there is a +ve update on my end which i wish to share here… am back with my ex (she managed to break her engagement against all odds!) and are a lot more stronger now in terms of trusting each other!! Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for reading my post, guiding, advising, and helping me in other ways!!

    If there is anything I can do to help you guys from my experience please feel free to communicate πŸ™‚

    #81798
    h0p3
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    @amcee so happy for you! I hope you can make it long lasting πŸ™‚ How are both your parents reacting?

    I’m not as lucky as you are. But I’m better in general. My ex got in a new relationship in February. Not even having the guts to tell me himself. A mutual friend told me. I got into therapy to work on me and through my insecurities. I realized that my ex, as much as I love him will probably never really want to work on himself. So while still sometimes hoping, I do not count on him coming around and I decided to move on.

    I even found a really great guy and we were dating for nearly 4 months now. But my insecurities killed it, I think. I’m holding back a lot. Being afraid showing too many emotions will overwhelm the guy, wanting too much and getting hurt again. So he ended it saying there was nothing wrong, nothing he could point his finger at, but a feeling is missing. Of course it was not just me, he is not completely settled himself, his priorities are definitely not on a relationship at the moment. (See a pattern there? ;)) It’s sad, because we got along so well, but maybe I just have to work more on myself, to be able to bring this positive feeling back into a relationship.

    #95538
    Anne
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    @amcee omg wow.. I’m so happy for you! I’m sorry I’m a lil late. But I’m happy for you guys. Wish you guys all the luck and have a happy long long long relationship ahead. 😊

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