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  • #2073
    ofoto
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    I’ll try to keep this brief while trying to detail as much as possible, any advice or input is greatly appreciated. I want this girl back, but I don’t know if there’s been too much damage done already.

    I was with my ex for 4 months, we were an instant match and started dating only 2 and a half weeks later after meeting. Not that this matters at this point, but she was the one who approached me and started chasing me and she claims she has never done that with any other guy in her life. Everything seemed to align perfectly, from our music taste to our outlook on life…I was on cloud 9 and thought I finally found the person I’d always been looking for. Though it was only 4 months in duration, the relationship was very intense both emotionally and physically. We crossed into the territory of passionate “I love you’s” and she wrote me love letters saying that even though we hadn’t known each other very long that she knew “I was it for her,” “I was the one,” etc. She even told me that if I had proposed to her to get married that she would say yes (even up until the day before the breakup). I was and still am very much in love with this girl.

    So here are what the two major problems were in the relationship that led to the break up:

    Problem #1. I have been indecisive about my career path and discussing it with her/always changing my mind made her very frustrated. Regardless, I currently have a good entry-level job for my age that will propel me into a good career no matter what my choice is. Then there is also the fact that she does not even have her bachelor’s degree yet. I felt as though I was being judged too harshly by her when she is nowhere close to being into her career yet while I am in a good place. Another thing to note is that before I met her I was absolutely positive in the path I was choosing. She started “testing” me and suggesting I was settling for less with my choice, and it wasn’t until then that I started questioning myself as well. I realize now that I failed this test and was not showing masculinity by being absolutely sure of my path.

    Problem #2. This was the much bigger problem and ultimately led to us not being together. She said she has always been a girl that has “always had mostly guy friends,” whatever that means (I hate when girls say that). Although her friends are now mostly female, her “close” guy friend at the moment is a relic of her past relationship and was friends with her ex and also dated one of her friends briefly. He told her when she was dating her ex that her ex was no good for her, or something of that nature. That caused a riff in their friendship for some time and they recently started being friends again. I met this dude when we went out to eat at the restaurant he works at, and when we met she completely ignored me and talked to him. I was polite but said nothing and did not think twice about it all. That following Friday (a few nights later) I was at work and she texted me saying she was going out for drinks with this dude and then to the club as his “wingman.” I wasn’t cool with this, and started being short with her in my texts and she picked up that something was wrong and tried to reassure me they were only friends, blah blah blah.

    I told her I was not cool with her hanging out with another dude one on one, especially since I would be off work later that night and she was going to be doing that instead of hanging with me. She offered that I come join them, but I felt I was only being invited because of how I reacted and not from a genuine place of her wanting me to come. Eventually she went home then invited me over after I was off work. I ended up not going to see her though due to miscommunication and because she got mad when I asked if she was sure she wanted to be in a committed relationship. We made up the next day and all was well for awhile.

    Then one night she invited me over to her friends house, and this is where I admittedly fucked up the hardest. When I got there she said it was her and her friend hanging out with two of her other guy friends. I overreacted to the situation before meeting her friends and got jealous and gave her the ultimatum that I wasn’t cool with this and that this was the kind of thing that would drive us apart (I looked at the situation as a black and white issue, i.e. her and her friend chilling with two dudes). I pushed the issue too far with my jealousy and should have just let it go. My overreaction and unwarranted jealousy here is what set up the end in my mind, and I hate myself for it every day. I was a fool that night and regret my behavior in the worst of ways.
    A few days later she said we needed to talk about what happened that night and also about the night she went out with her close guy friend. The conversation started fine but then escalated because I still foolishly wouldn’t back down from my position (I know this was dumb and I am really ashamed.) It got to the point where she said she wouldn’t hang out one on one with dudes anymore, but I still kept pushing. Eventually she got really angry and said she was going to do whatever she wanted whenever she wanted regardless of what I thought. I ended up walking out of her house because I was frustrated and she yelled to me “if you’re gone, you’re gone!” This was the first time we broke up (about a month ago), but after contemplating my behavior I realized I was very wrong and we ended up getting back together a few days later. When we got back together I told her it was never my intention to control her and that it was all my fault, etc.
    When we were talking the day we got back together she was saying how she was hanging out at her close guy friends house a few nights before (while we were broken up) and about him and his relationship with his girlfriend that was on the fritz. I was thinking she was testing me to see how I reacted, so I chose to think nothing of it because I was just happy to have her back and was looking towards the future. A couple weeks later while we were at the gym, I saw that she got a text from her close guy friend (same dude) and I also saw that she deleted the conversation. I have no idea what the text said or anything, but I know for sure she deleted it. I buried this and told myself I was being overly jealous and not to worry about it and to not bring it up with her by any means. About a week and a half ago, we spent the weekend together and everything was all good and well. On Monday she said she had to go home that night because she was “busy.” The whole night she was not as responsive with her texts and sent me a few snapchats of her and her dog laying on the couch. The next day we were texting and I asked her what she was up to the night before, and she said she had to go home and clean and then her close guy friend came over to watch a movie.

    I know I told her I wouldn’t care what she did, but this was where my boundary was I suppose. I thought about that deleted text and I reacted with “Are you serious?” to saying it was “disrespectful, not cool, how she left me to hang out with him instead, etc.” She said that it wasn’t a big deal and that her parents were home, to which I responded her parents were home the times when her and I hooked up while watching a movie. We had even had conversations before about what “watching a movie” really means in terms of girls and guys hanging out. She said she didn’t want to talk about it…with me being angry, I kept pushing and saying it was always about what she wanted. She responded with a text saying “I don’t want to be with you anymore. I gave you a second chance with this, etc.” I called to confirm that’s what she wanted and accepted the breakup gracefully, though it is not what I wanted.

    The Aftermath:
    (Side note: Throughout the relationship, this girl was very hot and cold. When I backed off, she would show more interest and the moment I would show more interest she would back off a little. When we got back together after the first “break up” she said we shouldn’t spend all of our free time together, yet when I intentionally put days between seeing each other her interest would skyrocket saying how badly she misses me and all that. I’m not sure if she was really sure about what it is she wanted.”

    Needless to say, I’m very shocked that I was dumped via text by someone who said the day before that she would marry me had I proposed. Especially since the last time we were together was great and ended with us hugging, kissing and exchanging I love you’s. It’s a feeling that has left me inconsolable and feeling like a piece of trash thrown out on the highway. Immediately after the breakup I blocked her on facebook, etc. Stupidly, I sent her a text a few days later (one week ago) saying how “I’m sorry for overreacting and that I’m working on being less overprotective, that I enjoyed our time together and if she wanted to talk then cool and if not that’s cool too.” She responded a few hours later saying “I also overreacted but I’m content with my decision, I knew you wouldn’t change on this issue, I never wanted to hurt you, maybe we could be friends.” To which I responded “I can’t do the whole friends thing, I don’t want you to contact me unless you want me, I can’t settle for less, I wish you all the best.”

    Today we were supposed to be on vacation together with her family. I already paid for my spot at the beach condo a few weeks ago and requested politely I get my money back via mail when we broke up. I told my close friend this and he thought it was really fucked up that I have not received my money for a vacation that I should be on right now and that I already requested off work, etc. He sent her a facebook message a few days ago saying that I was busy and that he would come pick up the money but she never responded. At this point I don’t give a shit about the money and I’m just going to let it go. I am actually ashamed of asking for it back during the breakup because it’s just a petty thing to do.

    Anyway, I have been doing no contact since that last text I sent her a week ago (I wish I would have just gone NC right after we broke up but I was stupid). I realize that at this point that there’s absolutely nothing I can do to get her back and that I need to move on, focus on myself, etc. I know that the more I do, as in if I contact her it will push her even further away. Regardless, this is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I wake up every morning in a panic/state of disbelief that instead of being with her at the beach I’m simply on my own now.

    I can’t get her face and her beauty out of my mind and I feel like I’m detoxing off of a drug. I truly believed I would spend the rest of my life with this person. I believed with my whole being and to my core that my whole life had led to her, yet now I am picking up the pieces and self-loathing about losing her. I regret all the mistakes I made and really can’t even face myself for not being wiser and avoiding this awful state of pain. I’m not sure what I’m looking for by writing this and putting this out there, but I greatly appreciate any input and any honest words about the situation. If anyone has been through anything similar please feel free to share.

    #2092
    a.z
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    hey,
    I know exactly how you feel and that’s really normal.you started NC a week ago and i think you should continue it for 1-2 months.

    Here’s a checklist for ending no contact.

    -You followed the no contact rule for at least one month.
    -You are no longer a mess as you were after the breakup.
    -You have made a few positive changes in your life.
    -You are absolutely sure that getting back with your ex is a good decision.
    -You have gone on at least one date during no contact.
    -You have accepted the breakup and you are OK with the fact that you may never get your ex back and this might never work for you.
    -You have accepted the fact that even if you don’t get your ex back, you will be fine since there are endless opportunities in the world to find love and happiness.

    Don’t worry if she said you can be friends thats actually a good thing and its the falsefriendship.you should act like friends so you can get close to her without looking needy,show her the positive changes in your life and reattract her.

    Like kevin suggested,read the Relationship Rewind by Ryan Rivers.it explains all about falsefrienship,the stage your in and what exactly you need to do to get out of it.
    For now you need to focus on your life and improve it.
    Follow the plan and it will absolutely increase your chances.

    Best of Luck

    #2124
    ofoto
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    I know that NC is really my only option at this point if I stand a chance at getting her back, but what do you mean about false friendship? I’m not familiar with that at all and I thought the point of NC was to not be friends as to put them in the rearview and move forward. Also, is there any advice about how to be less retrospective about the relationship and how to stop focusing on the details? I can’t shake off this paralysis of analysis

    #2129
    a.z
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    You can’t ask her to get back with you right after NC is finished.and you don’t have to rush things or make her feel pressured.the more you avoid being romantic and act like friends,the more she will want you to be romantic and for that, she needs you to be her boyfriend.
    The falsefriendship is a method in the Relationship Rewind.and its really easy to follow.all you need is to act like friends.

    Its been 1 week since you started NC and what you feel and how you keep thinking about everything is really normal right now.you will get better soon but you should help yourself.do not stalk her on anything,take up a hobby,do what you always wanted to do,set new goals,hang out with friends,go on dates,go to gym,do everything that may make you feel better.it may sound nonsense now,but do it and you will feel the change soon.

    Whenever something about the break up comes to your mind,tell yourself that you are more important than her so you should stop everything thats keeping you from being happy. and that if you really want her back,you should become a happy confident person again.

    #2165
    ofoto
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    I’m not sure if I should even contact her once the NC period has ended.. As I said I still feel like a piece of garbage tossed out the window and totally disrespected that it was done by text. I guess that is something I will have to consider once I’ve put enough NC time in.
    I’m doing all the things I need to be doing by spending time at the gym, hanging with friends, focusing on goals, etc. Despite this I’m still having trouble wrapping my head around how the whole thing happened. It’s crazy to me that we went from a passionate relationship to nothing via a text conversation. Do you have any thoughts on how it specifically went down? Or do you think I should just say fuck it and not even think about things.
    I’m of the opinion that she wanted to have her cake and eat it too. I’m not sure if there’s anything between her and that dude but all I can do is speculate and try not to assume the worst. I saw her on tinder a few days later which made me think that if they had anything that it was whatever. Idk, it’s just driving me crazy

    #2172
    Quinn
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    Honestly, I don’t even think you acted out of line. I would react the same way if my boyfriend were watching movies and hanging out with other females. I know there is no way for you to KNOW the answer to this for sure, but how do you think she would react if the tables were turned and it was you hanging around other girls? Just curious.

    #2176
    a.z
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    Hey,
    Kevin says,most of the times when it comes to breakups,its the best decision to consider moving on but there are still some people who want to try and endure the pain.
    Actually i was one of those people and i don’t regret it.i think you can try at least once and see if it works for you.
    Tbh almost all of us are here because of lost of attraction.and there are too many factors that may cause this.showing jealousy,insecurity,being too controlling and not being able to communicate well were the attraction killers in your relationship i guess.
    You are right,stop obsessing over her and everything about her and focus on yourself.make positive changes and be sure everything will be better soon.

    #2182
    ofoto
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    I brought up the fact that if I had done the same thing, i.e. ditched her saying I was “busy” to go hang with a girl “friend” (no alpha male with testosterone watches a movie with a girl thinking “this is great to hang with her as her buddy”) to watch a movie that she would react the same way. She had said she wouldn’t care if that happened but I think that’s bullshit. Honestly I wouldn’t do that anyway because that wreaks of playing games to me and I wasn’t going to resort to back and forth jabs at each other. I think my initial bouts of being overprotective are what led to that, but it’s hard for me to be objective about it.

    It just blows my mind that someone could say one day they wanted to marry me then dump me via text the next. I want to move on but I guess I’m struggling with the concept of being let down so hard so suddenly by someone. I know it’s life and shit happens but it’s just super fucking painful to think I’m so disposable. I’m doing all the right things, staying active etc. Regardless, I still think about it all the time and I can’t wait until I’m not anymore. As long as I continue with productive behavior good feelings will eventually follow I hope. I really did and still do love this girl.. Which is crazy to me considering how hard she chopped my neck

    #2187
    Quinn
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    You’re not disposable. It sounds like she is the one with the problems right now. And by problems I just mean that she doesn’t know what the hell she wants. I have a good feeling that she will come back to you eventually.

    #2193
    ofoto
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    Yeah I mean obviously whatever she has going on with this dude is something she doesn’t want to give up. In fact, she dumped my ass and chose that whole situation over me in my eyes. It’s hard to imagine that even if she came crawling back that I could ever trust her again. I mean, how can you trust someone who says they’d marry you one day then dumps you via text the very next day over something that’s completely reasonable to be upset about. It takes two to tango, and it can’t be so one sided to the point where we can’t talk about our issues like adults.

    Even if I’m not inherently disposable, she sure as shit made me feel like it. Maybe I’m being pessimistic, but even the best case scenario of this seems pretty grim to me. An interesting note about her is that her long term relationships before me were both extremely long distance (not even real relationships in my opinion) and the only one not long distance before me lasted only three months. Maybe that speaks more to who she is than it does about me (my last relationship was 4.5 years.) Anyway, I’m obviously distressed over this and trying to stay positive. I want to believe in us but I also don’t want to carry a torch of false hope

    #3085
    ofoto
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    I’d really appreciate it if anyone could chime in on this. I’m having a hard time

    #3092
    a.z
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    Well,i understand you.but you are really confused.you should continue NC as long as you are dealing with this confusion.you should make sure if you want her back or not and then you should ask yourself if you are really gonna have a long healthy relationship with her?
    If the answer is yes,then you should continue the plan.

    #3122
    ofoto
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    I’m worried that I sabotaged my chances when my friend sent that message about the money. That was one week ago. I know I’m emotional and still irrational. I can’t believe I let this girl mess with my head so much. I know it’s completely my own fault for feeling this way

    #3154
    a.z
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    Its ok.you need some time.don’t think about negative things.Follow the plan and you will feel better soon.

    #4340
    ofoto
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    Okay, so it’s been 3 weeks of no contact and I can honestly say all the details are still buzzing in my head like an angry bee’s nest. The pain hasn’t let up at all. Something tells me she’s just not going to come back and that I’ll never hear from her again. I blocked her on Facebook when we broke up and I’m just experiencing a lot of regret because of that and other things during and after the relationship. This guilt is crushing me, I just can’t shake it. Some people (mostly women) are telling me I should call her and try to get her back. This shit sucks

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